thumping dampers

[richard.ucci@att.net]

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Thanks Bill, I'll keep you posted.

-------------- Original message from "William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net>: -------------- 


> Hi Rick, 
> 
> After hearing a couple other responses, I'd think strongly toward the 
> underlever leads. Depends on the whump. The more I think of it, the more 
> I'm leaning toward this with my own Yammy. My memory allows things to creep 
> back inside sometimes, and for me at least, I'm starting to feel that this 
> Yamaha doesn't create the same whump that I had on a Mason BB (which new 
> felts cured). 
> 
> What's more, even with cutting the lift, there will be passages where the 
> damper pedal needs to be released rather quickly, and, even with good pedal 
> technique, a quick release is probably still going to give you a whump even 
> though the lift distance is lessened. Though, it IS a pretty quick and easy 
> thing to do. If it works, great, if not, no big investment and you can look 
> at the other options at that time. 
> 
> I'd be interested to know what you do find here. 
> 
> Best, 
> William R. Monroe 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: "An open list for piano technicians" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:07 PM 
> Subject: Re: thumping dampers 
> 
> 
> > Thanks Bill, 
> > I don't think changing out the damper felts is an option. The dealer won't 
> spring for it , and I doubt that Yamaha will either, and the client surely 
> wont. I think I'm going to go for cutting down the lift . 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > RU/UP 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from "William R. Monroe" 
> : -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> > > Well, Rick, 
> > > 
> > > I must say I would be inclined to concur with the pedal being 
> excessively 
> > > "thumpy." I just serviced a Yamaha C1 today. The thump of the dampers 
> was 
> > > really quite bothersome. No amount of limiting the damper travel would 
> do 
> > > anything here. The felts are in quite good condition, but are a bit 
> firmer 
> > > than I usually see. 
> > > 
> > > My gut is that to make the thumping end, you'll need new (different) 
> damper 
> > > felts. In my case, it is definitely the damper felts creating the noise, 
> > > but I would check to see what kind of shape the felts in the pedal box 
> are 
> > > in and how absorbent they are. I often find poor felts in the pedal box 
> can 
> > > contribute to that thumping noise. 
> > > 
> > > Hope you are able to remedy the problem. 
> > > 
> > > Regards, 
> > > William R. Monroe 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Horace Greeley" 
> > > To: "An open list for piano technicians" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:31 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: thumping dampers 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Rick, 
> > > > 
> > > > Putting aside for the moment the "why bother?" that immediately 
> > > > springs to mind when recording with an instrument like this is 
> > > > mentioned, I generally agree with Dale. Nothing is going to stop 
> > > > noise from the assembly when the foot is simply lifted quickly off the 
> > > pedal. 
> > > > 
> > > > What you might also find helpful is to replace some/most of the 
> > > > harder felt and leather stop-blocks in the damper mechanism. It 
> > > > won't fix the whole problem - and - it definitely means that you will 
> > > > be revisiting the instrument to replace the softer material which 
> > > > wears out much more quickly, it might help. 
> > > > 
> > > > Hope there is something of value for you here. 
> > > > 
> > > > Best. 
> > > > 
> > > > Horace 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > At 06:12 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote: 
> > > > > Ahh yes but it could be his pedaling technique. I've seen some 
> > > > > fine pianist with horrible pedal technique. They can make a 
> > > > > nominally set of of quit dampers start to sound like a bass drum 
> > > > > specially on a Steinway..which they're not used to. He probably 
> > > > > doesn't need a spring surgery but quite possibly his technique 
> > > > > needs attention....... JMO 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dale 
> > > > >Hi Listers, 
> > > > > 
> > > > >Client with a new Yamaha ga-1 is complaining that the dampers make a 
> > > > >thumping noise when his foot is taken off the sustain pedal. He is 
> > > > >doing some recording and it is very noticable to him. Other than 
> > > > >changing the spring to one with less tension , what would be a 
> > > > >solution to his problem? 
> > > > > 
> > > > >Thanks, 
> > > > >Rick Ucci/Ucci Piano 
> > > > > 
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