Thanks John, I must try your "mutting system". So far i've always used just the one mute (rubber wedge for grands and up. bass, and papps wedge for plain wire on up.) Still not had a propper chance to use the vt... but i will this week! Patrick > Patrick, > > Look forward to hearing your comparisons with pRCT. > > Right now, I carry the VT in a camera bag. It won't fit in my tool case > with the rest of my stuff, so that's what I'm doing for now. It's a > padded soft-sided case that has room for the manual and charger. A > camcorder case would also work well. > > One technique I use helps with pitch raising and a one-pass tuning with > overpull. It might also work well with RCT and other ETDs that listen > to each note to calculate overpull for that individual note. The VT > takes a while to measure the overpull, and this method helps speed > things up a bit because the machine calculates the needed overpull > before you are actually ready to tune that note. This method works with > the "leapfrog" way of using two rubber mutes, and it also works with > strip mutes. I use both, depending on whether I'm tuning a vertical or > the spacing of the strings on a grand won't allow good muting with a > strip. > > This method assumes you are tuning unisons as you go up and down the > scale. Basically, you will be playing the next note with your left hand > as you are moving the mutes and lever with your right hand. This allows > the VT to calculate the overpull while you are still working on tuning > two other strings. > > It's easier to do > than to describe in writing, so I hope you can make sense of it. Here > goes.... > > I'm assuming you are using two rubber mutes, have measured A4 and A3, > and are starting with the first tenor string...we'll assume the tenor > begins with B2 and is a trichord. You have one mute between the B2 > middle/right strings and one mute between the B2 right string and C3 left > string, so that only the left B2 string is sounding. Tune the left B2 > string. As you are pulling the mute out from the B2 middle/right strings > and moving it to mute the C3 right > string/C#3 left string, play C3, which should now have only the middle > string sounding. (You have a free left hand as you are moving mutes and > lever, correct? So play C3 now with it to let the VT calculate the > overpull. It takes a couple of seconds to move the mute and lever, and > this gives the VT plenty of time to make its calculations.) Now tune > the B2 middle string. > > Now, you are ready to tune the C3 middle string. (Because you've > previously played C3, the VT has already calculated the necessary > overpull, so you play it and tune right away without having to wait.) > After the middle C3 string is tuned, move the mute from between the > B2/C3 strings to the C#3 right string/D3 left string, playing C#3 as > you are moving the mutes and lever. (Again, this gives the VT time to > measure when you get ready to tune C#3.) Then tune B2 right and C3 > left. Now tune C#3 middle, and move the mute ahead as you are playing > D3. > > Does this make any sense? It's far easier to do it than to write it. > Here's a crude visual illustration. The strings should be obvious, and > the "V's" are the mutes. I hope it comes through OK. > > V V > III III III > B2 C3 C#3 > > V V > III III III > B2 C3 C#3 > > V V > III III III III > B2 C3 C#3 D3 > > Just remember to be playing ahead as you're moving mutes and lever so > the VT can calculate the overpull and have it ready when you get to > that string. > > John Formsma > > > PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. wrote: > > John and anyone interested, > > I finally received my Verituner 100 today (yep the "big box" version!). > Although i only had time to use it for a few minutes before going home (if > it wasn't because i promised my wife to be home for dinner i will probably > have spent all night in the workshop messing about with the new device). > > First impressions are good so far, i quite liked the fact of starting > tuning right away, the solid box, looks professional... I quite like the > numbers in the middle of the spinner... i can actually see myself using > those quite a lot. Anyway, i'll report more about the change from pRCT > (which i intend to keep and use from t2t) to Verituner 100. > > I would like to ask one first question to VT100 users, do you usually > carry it in the tool case (if so,any ideas to protect screen from the rest > of the stuff), have made a special compartment for it or have a special > bag? any pics? > > Any other tips for using vt are welcome ! > > Thanks, > > Patrick > > > > > Patrick, > > Yes, please let me know your experience, especially since you have been > using pRCT. > > The spinner is different. A friend of mine showed me his pRCT, and the VT > has no "blush" feature to let you know when the pitch is on target. The > needle on the VT is a bit "jumpy" on some pianos, but you get accustomed > to > interpreting the display. Since I had used the SAT previously, I was used > to > things being a little jumpy sometimes. > > John Formsma > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On > Behalf > Of PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:17 PM > To: pianotech@ptg.org > Subject: RCT vs. Verituner > > Hi John, > > I use pocket RCT at the moment, but have just ordered a Verituner 100. > They mentioned pocket verituner was also available but decided to go for > the "traditional" one, since the point of getting it in the first place > was to have a device that isn't "built" in a flimsy hand held computer. > > I should have the new machine arriving in a couple of days, so i can let > you know my thoughts as a Veritune convert from RCT. > > It hopefully won't take me too long to get used to the new device (i > suppose the spinner will be similar). > > Regards from sunny Southern Spain, > > Patrick > > > All the talk about the pRCT and PocketPC tends to make me almost wish I > had gone with the Pocket PC w/ either RCT or pocket Verituner to reduce > my "lug load." However, I'm pleased with the Verituner and don't intend > to invest any more money into any other ETD unless there is a very > compelling reason to do so. > >brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrhttps://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > Patrick Hinves Ballesta > Afinador/Técnico 610442371 > PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. > > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > > Patrick Hinves Ballesta Afinador/Técnico 610442371 PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.
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