Samuel et al, "Skipping" strings is a common enough problem and I have tuned many a piano that I left sounding (to my ear) as bad as I when I arrived thanks to poor rendering past capo bars. My grandfather used 3 in 1 oil and I tried that for years, finally realizing that it was making the problem worse on most pianos. My current preferred treatment is the old formula of Liquid Wrench. I have not had good luck with their current formula; I use the material sold in the metal cans as it is an older formula and seems to work better at rendering strings. The old stuff smells like diesal fuel, the new stuff has a more rank odor. As a second choice I would only use CLP. Blaine Hebert Of Samuel Choy Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:39 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Tuning a Duo/Art player piano Hi all, Well, I tuned the player piano today...sort of. It wasn't that difficult to get the necessary parts out of the way. At first I thought that I could tune around the the mute/rinky tink bar, but that proved very difficult. So I eventually removed it. I set the temperment quickly enough. They told me that it hadn't been tuned in five years, so I decided against raising it to pitch (I told them that I wasn't and they were fine with that.) But tuning the thing was a major pain. First of all, there were false beats galore..It almost seemed like there were false beats within false beats. Also the pins skipped. No matter who carefully I tried to move my tuning hammer, it skipped higher or lower than I wanted each time. Between the pain it was to tune and the time it took me to remove the requesite parts to access the tuning pins, it took me almost four hours to tune the darn thing. And then it still sounded like cr..p. But I got it done. It was suggested that I charge above my extra fee for the job. Unfortunately, that was after I gave them my quote--my regular price less 10% for being a first time customer. I won't make that mistake next time. I've got to say, though, that it was a real learning experience. I don't think that it would take me as long the next time. Thanks again for everyone's excellent advice...I used it and it did help me a lot. Regards, Sam Choy
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