Blatent commercial endorsement

[Ron Boyd]

Thanks for the info Andrew. I think you sold me on getting a Reburn Pocket
Tuner. Hmmm! I wonder if I can find anyone to buy the Peterson 490 ST.

Ron Boyd
Milwaukee, Wi.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew and Rebeca Anderson [mailto:anrebe at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:22 AM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: Blatent commercial endorsement

Ron,
I have a 490ST gathering dust in the bottom of my closet.  The
problem with the 490ST is that it doesn't calculate stretch to fit
the little beast in front of you.  You have to do that on the fly
and, that little touchpad doesn't touch fast enough to add or
subtract cents.  If they had made it a turn knob I probably would
still be using it--not if I'd tried a VT100.  The 490ST does not
differentiate very well at the extreme ends of the scale in the nasty
little pianos.
The 490ST gives you interference patterns to work with.  They are
stretched by templates that don't accurately fit most pianos you
encounter.  If you look in the back of the manual you will see the
stretch tables they utilize.  You will notice they are quite smooth,
calculated.  Sit down in front of that Betsy Ross and check out the
break to the bass bridge.  If you want to make that sound good it
will not be a smooth curve.

For fine concert tuning work you need to consider all the breaks in
the scale.  Every change in wire size, and/or in wrap size is a
scaling break.  A fine tuned concert grand will have all those
scaling breaks neatly tuned and unobtrusive to the tuner's ear.  If
you are relying on the 490ST and not checking intervals and adjusting
as you go, you will not have the best possible tuning.  Compared to
older style tuners that rely on a FAC to calculate a curve it is
stone-age-ware.  Compared to the new tuners that calculate each note
by its inharmonicity as you go it is: well, kind superlatives aren't
existent. ;-)

Andrew Anderson

At 11:17 PM 7/12/2006, you wrote:
>I never hear anyone talking about the Peterson 490st. I have one and yes it
>is very big and bulky and needs to be plugged in but I do find it to be
>accurate. I eventually want to purchase the pocket Reyburn Cyber Tuner
>because of it's size and no need to plug it in.
>I would like some feedback on what most of you think of the Peterson.
>
>Ron Boyd
>Milwaukee, Wi.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pianoman [mailto:pianoman at accessus.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:53 PM
>To: tune4u at earthlink.net; Pianotech List
>Subject: Re: Blatent commercial endorsement
>
>It may be pricey but for battery life, dependability and no nonsense
>reliability it is hard to beat.
>Jim
>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
>Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches, Writing
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>  (314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
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>pianoman at accessus.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alan Barnard" <tune4u at earthlink.net>
>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:39 PM
>Subject: RE: Blatent commercial endorsement
>
>
> > SAT III ---> Practical. Powerful. Professional. Pricey.
> >
> > I wonder if Monsieur Sanderson will ever come out with a compact model,
> > the Babysat?
> >
> > Alan Barnard
> > Salem, Missouri
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Jack
> > To: Pianotech
> > Sent: 07/12/2006 11:08:00 AM
> > Subject: Blatent commercial endorsement
> >
> >
> > I have been following this thread with interest.
> >
> > Wondering why with all of this disscussion about ETDs no mention is made
> > of the SAT III...............?
> >
> >
> > Terry Jack
> > Eugene Oregon Chapt PTG
> >
> >
> > "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely
> > in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
> > thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming   "WOW --
> > What a Ride!"