Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALREADY

[Avery]

See previous post!!!!!!! PLEASE!

I have no problems with the sentiments posted, but I DO have a problem about
where they're posted!!!!!!!!

Avery Todd
University of Houston

At 08:03 PM 6/19/2006, you wrote:
>We could all do with a little fear of God in this overly permissive 
>culture(which, by the way, is going down the tubes just like Rome 
>and other past civilizations)
>
>Wayne
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Sykes" <thetuner at ivories52.com>
>To: <tune4u at earthlink.net>; "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 4:10 PM
>Subject: RE: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALREADY
>
>
>>: Prophet (American Heritage Dictionary): The chief spokesperson of a
>>movement or cause.
>>
>>: Apostle (American Heritage Dictionary): A passionate adherent; a strong
>>supporter.
>>
>>: Gospel (WordNet, Princeton University): The written body of teachings of a
>>(religious) group that are generally accepted by that group.
>>
>>OK, so I got a little picky in the definitions that I chose. But that said,
>>and while agreeing that, (depending upon what the definition of "is" is),
>>"God" "is", let's see if we can make this just that much sillier! Here's the
>>testimony that I received:
>>
>>"Christians use Hell to scare people into believing what they believe. But
>>to believe in something just because you're afraid of the consequences if
>>you don't believe in something is no reason to believe in something."
>>-- Homer Simpson
>>
>>
>>And then ---
>>Asked by Bart what his religious beliefs are, Homer answers, "You know, the
>>one with all the well-meaning rules that don't work in real life. Uh,
>>Christianity."
>>
>>
>>No one would mistake Homer Simpson and his family for saints. In many ways,
>>in fact, they are quintessentially weak, good-hearted sinners who rely on
>>their faith -- but only when absolutely necessary.
>>-- Michael Medved
>>
>>
>>"(The Simpsons) have captured a very common understanding of who God is,"
>>said Glodo, of Reformed Theological Seminary. "It's a very functional view
>>of religion."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>And with that, I'm running for cover.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
>>Of Alan Barnard
>>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:15 PM
>>To: Pianotech List
>>Subject: RE: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALREADY
>>
>>
>>God ... the ultimate inconvenient, yet absolute, truth.
>>
>>How on earth did this silly thread get started? Why am I perpetuating it
>>even one more keystroke?
>>
>>Oh yeah, to declare out of necessity a portion of my resolute testimony: God
>>IS. You have the testimony of prophets and apostles from Adam to the present
>>day and you have the absolute right and capability to receive your own
>>testimony.
>>
>>Don't let fear stop you.
>>
>>Alan Barnard
>>Salem, Missouri
>>
>>P.S. If this post offends anyone, they have my sympathy.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Sykes
>>To: Pianotech List
>>Sent: 06/19/2006 12:44:09 PM
>>Subject: RE: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALREADY
>>
>>
>>Let's lighten up, people. If you can't follow George's proposed new third
>>commandment, (see end of article), then please take this conversation to a
>>forum where it is appropriate. May I suggest the following Google search:
>>http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=god+male+female
>>
>>=====================================
>>
>>GEORGE CARLIN ON THE 10 COMMANDMENTS
>>from "Complaints and Grievances" (HBO special)
>>
>>Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10?
>>
>>You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially
>>and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened:
>>
>>About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got
>>together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line.
>>They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were
>>told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a
>>mountain, when no one was around.
>>
>>Well let me ask you this- when they were making this s**t up, why did they
>>pick 10? Why not 9 or 11? I'll tell you why- because 10 sounds official. Ten
>>sounds important! Ten is the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade,
>>it's a psychologically satisfying number (the top ten, the ten most wanted,
>>the ten best dressed). So having ten commandments was really a marketing
>>decision! It is clearly a b******t list. It's a political document
>>artificially inflated to sell better. I will now show you how you can reduce
>>the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a little more
>>workable and logical. I am going to use the Roman Catholic version because
>>those were the ones I was taught as a little boy.
>>
>>Let's start with the first three:
>>
>>I AM THE LORD THY GOD THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN
>>
>>THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH
>>
>>Right off the bat the first three are pure b******t. Sabbath day? Lord's
>>name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive
>>people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives
>>of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. So now we're down to 7.
>>Next:
>>
>>HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER
>>
>>Obedience, respect for authority. Just another name for controlling people.
>>The truth is that obedience and respect shouldn't be automatic. They should
>>be earned and based on the parent's performance. Some parents deserve
>>respect, but most of them don't, period. You're down to six.
>>
>>Now in the interest of logic, something religion is very uncomfortable with,
>>we're going to jump around the list a little bit.
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT STEAL
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS
>>
>>Stealing and lying. Well actually, these two both prohibit the same kind of
>>behavior- dishonesty. So you don't really need two you combine them and call
>>the commandment "thou shalt not be dishonest". And suddenly you're down to
>>5.
>>
>>And as long as we're combining I have two others that belong together:
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE
>>
>>Once again, these two prohibit the same type of behavior. In this case it is
>>marital infidelity. The difference is- coveting takes place in the mind. But
>>I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife
>>because what is a guy gonna think about when he's waxing his carrot? But,
>>marital infidelity is a good idea so we're gonna keep this one and call it
>>"thou shalt not be unfaithful". And suddenly we're down to four.
>>
>>But when you think about it, honesty and infidelity are really part of the
>>same overall value so, in truth, you could combine the two honesty
>>commandments with the two fidelity commandments and give them simpler
>>language, positive language instead of negative language and call the whole
>>thing "thou shalt always be honest and faithful" and we're down to 3.
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS
>>
>>This one is just plain f****n' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is
>>what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o
>>come o ye faithful", and you want one too! Coveting creates jobs, so leave
>>it alone. You throw out coveting and you're down to 2 now- the big honesty
>>and fidelity commandment and the one we haven't talked about yet:
>>
>>THOU SHALT NOT KILL
>>
>>Murder. But when you think about it, religion has never really had a big
>>problem with murder. More people have been killed in the name of god than
>>for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland,
>>Cashmere, the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the World Trade Center to see
>>how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout
>>they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable. It depends on who's
>>doin the killin' and who's gettin' killed. So, with all of this in mind, I
>>give you my revised list of the two commandments:
>>
>>Thou shalt always be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie.
>>
>>&
>>
>>Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course they pray to a
>>different invisible man than you.
>>
>>Two is all you need; Moses could have carried them down the hill in his
>>f****n' pocket. I wouldn't mind those folks in Alabama posting them on the
>>courthouse wall, as long as they provided one additional commandment:
>>
>>Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
>>Of pianotune05 at comcast.net
>>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:21 AM
>>To: Pianotech List
>>Subject: Re: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff.....
>>
>>
>>Definitly faith I would attest.  Now we're getting into even deeper
>>theological topics which I know I'd get in trouble for discussing because
>>they're not piano related.  Someone else who's been a piano tech longer than
>>I who isn't new might get by with it.:)  All I will say is that discussing
>>those who wrote Scripture then opens the door for the topic, then who truly
>>wrote the Bible the people who thought the earth was flat or God inspiring
>>them?  I know the answer, but I'll leave it for another list. Marshall
>>
>>-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Robin 
>>Blankenship" <tunerdude at comcast.net>
>>
>>What evidence do you have for that assertion, Luis? Or, is this statement
>>just to be taken on faith............
>>
>>Robin Blankenship
>>----- Original Message ----- From: LuisGalvez at aol.com
>>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:23 AM
>>Subject: Re: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff.....
>>
>>
>>Remember that the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was flat.
>>
>>Luis Antonio Galvez-Alcantara "He was deeply in love. When she spoke, he
>>thought he heard bells, as if she were a garbage truck backing up."
>>www.tenors.net
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