Which one?

[Avery]

Greg,

Besides the obvious, my biggest gripe with the 
"new" one is that they only "bought the assets. Not the liabilities!"
We have a piano mover here that I use a LOT that 
stored and transported Abbey Simon's Baldwin for 
several months and several concerts and lost 
several thousand dollars because he did. At least as far as I know!

A dealer I work for in Beaumont, TX had their 
dealership taken away (after app. 50 yrs.) because they didn't
want to spend the several hundreds of thousands 
of dollars that the "new" Baldwin was demanding for them to continue
as a dealer! Most didn't/couldn't/wouldn't! 
That's why there are now, what? 3, 4, 5, Baldwin dealers in the USA now?
Thankfully, my dealer had already become a Yamaha 
dealer and I'd rather work on those anyway! :-)

It seems to me that if they wanted to have any 
continuing customers, they'd at LEAST honor the warranties on
new pianos. It just seems to me that they don't 
want to be bothered. And I don't like that attitude. I don't
give a warranty for my work, per se, but if 
anyone has a problem with what I've done, you can be damn sure I'll
do my best to correct the problem. Unlike Gibson, 
I don't want bad "word of mouth"! JMO. And I'll shut up now
before I get into even more trouble! :-)

Avery Todd
University of Houston

At 01:28 PM 6/28/2006, you wrote:
>Avery,
>         I kinda figured but that does beg the 
> question, what's the beef with the new one? 
> There not even the same company! I think if I 
> were out that much money I'd find it a tad hard 
> to get over too but really, there not the same 
> people. I feel for you though. I'd sure hate to 
> loose all that money. Did you get something in 
> the mail from the lawyers for claims against the company? I thought we all did.
>
>best,
>Greg
>
>
>
>At 07:18 AM 6/28/2006, you wrote:
>>The old one! :-)
>>
>>Avery
>>
>>At 08:58 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:
>>>Avery,
>>>         I completely understand how you might 
>>> bristle at the mere mention of the name 
>>> Baldwin but, may I ask, which Baldwin is the 
>>> one that owes you money? The old one or the new one?
>>>
>>>Greg Newell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 02:52 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:
>>>>David,
>>>>
>>>>My problem with Baldwin now is how they 
>>>>treated their dealers, techs they owed money to, etc., etc. Anymore,
>>>>I don't really give a "flying fig" how good 
>>>>their instruments "might" be. Doubtful. I just no longer want to
>>>>have ANYTHING to do with someone who treats 
>>>>people like they have!!!!!!!! They can take their "stealth" pianos
>>>>and stick them where the sun don't shine! 
>>>>(Hey, I'm being polite, here!) :-) When they pay me the app. $2000.00
>>>>they owe me, I "MIGHT" start looking at them 
>>>>again. If I could actually find a dealer that's still handling
>>>>them!!!
>>>>
>>>>Avery Todd
>>>>University of Houston
>>>>
>>>>At 11:22 AM 6/27/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>I have to admit, I haven't seen any new 
>>>>>Baldwin stuff...is it really so bad?   Hamiltons?  Yikes...
>>>>>
>>>>>David Ilvedson, RPT
>>>>>Pacifica, California
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----------
>>>>>Original message
>>>>>From: "Wayne Walker"
>>>>>To: "Pianotech List"
>>>>>Received: 6/27/2006 5:32:45 AM
>>>>>Subject: RE: Which one?
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>>You may have noticed the at the exhibition 
>>>>>hall no one was going near the Baldwin 
>>>>>booth. Both Yamaha and Kawai booths were 
>>>>>busy. This should be good indication. I have 
>>>>>tuned both P22 and UST-8A, both are good 
>>>>>pianos. The workmanship on the Baldwin is 
>>>>>poor. Hope this helps to make the right decision.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wayne Walker
>>>>>Piano Tuner / Technician
>>>>>Musicstop Acoustic Piano Service
>>>>>264 Herring Cove Road
>>>>>Halifax, NS, Canada
>>>>>B3P 1M1
>>>>>902-221-1540
>>>>>902-496-6924 Fax
>>>>><http://www.musicstop.com/>www.musicstop.com
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Mike Kurta [ mailto:mkurta at adelphia.net]
>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 3:07 PM
>>>>>To: Pianotech
>>>>>Subject: Which one?
>>>>>     Local school district is buying 10 new 
>>>>> verticals.  The choices are:  Yamaha P22, Baldwin 243E and Kawai UST-8A.
>>>>>     Pricing is comparable among all, any 
>>>>> thoughts on which might be the best for them?
>>>>>     Mike Kurta
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>Greg Newell
>>>>Greg's Piano Forté
>>>>mailto:gnewell at ameritech.net
>>>>www.gregspianoforte.com
>
>Greg Newell
>Greg's Piano Forté
>mailto:gnewell at ameritech.net
>www.gregspianoforte.com