v-bar/capo repair

[Jeannie Grassi]

Yes, the plate was redone.  And your suggestions might be a clue.
jeannie


Jeannie Grassi, RPT
Registered Piano Technician
Island Piano Service
Bainbridge Island, WA
206-842-3721
mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net


-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Greg Newell
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:06 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair

Did you repaint the plate? Perhaps the new finish was less gummy than the
old.

Greg Newell


\At 11:20 PM 3/9/2006, you wrote:
>That’s really helpful, David.  The piano is long 
>gone, but it was slipping out away from the 
>pins.  The puzzling thing was that there had 
>been a half round there previously with nothing 
>underneath it.  I don’t know why that stayed in 
>place.  I’ll remember this tip for the next time it happens.
>jeannie
>
>Jeannie Grassi, RPT
>Registered Piano Technician
>Island Piano Service
>Bainbridge Island, WA
>206-842-3721
><mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net
>
>
>----------
>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org 
>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love
>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:09 PM
>To: 'Pianotech List'
>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair
>
>With the tension on can you tap it back into 
>place and will it stay?  If not, then the angle 
>of that part of the plate isn’t right to hold it 
>in place with just string pressure.  When 
>installing an entire length in such situations I 
>usually pin it.  However for your testing 
>purpose you won’t want to do that.  Does it tend 
>to slip toward the tuning pins or away from 
>them?  If it’s toward the tuning pins you might 
>cut a short, thin strip of wood that you can 
>place between the new brass half round and the 
>old counterbearing bar to hold it in place.  If 
>it’s slipping away from the tuning pins
I’ll have to think about that one.
>
>
>David Love
>davidlovepianos at comcast.net
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org 
>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jeannie Grassi
>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:53 PM
>To: 'Pianotech List'
>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair
>
>I had a problem keep a length of brass half 
>round in place. I’m interested in knowing what 
>people use to make sure it doesn’t move.  It was 
>a longer piece that extended the entire treble 
>area.   It was a slippery little thing that 
>moved when the tension was brought up to pitch.
>
>jeannie
>
>
>
>Jeannie Grassi, RPT
>Registered Piano Technician
>Island Piano Service
>Bainbridge Island, WA
>206-842-3721
><mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net
>
>
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>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org 
>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Barbara Richmond
>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:40 PM
>To: Pianotech List
>Subject: Re: v-bar/capo repair
>
>Hi David,
>
>When experimenting duplex length with brass half 
>or oval round, would you, in this case, place 
>anything on the bottom of the brass to avoid 
>scratching the plate?   Or isn't it a problem?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Barbara Richmond
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:davidlovepianos at comcast.net>David Love
>To: <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>'Pianotech List'
>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:25 PM
>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair
>
>Like Ron N. says, I think it’s likely it has to 
>do with the front duplex and you may be able to 
>shorten, detune and increase the deflection 
>angle by inserting some brass of appropriate 
>dimension­at least you can experiment.  If it 
>turns out that that’s the problem, it’s not that 
>big a deal to remove the strings from one 
>section and insert the new counterbearing piece 
>and then replace the strings (the same ones you 
>took off).  Unhook them from the tuning pins 
>slip in the brass or whatever and then 
>reattach­if that proves to be the problem.  I 
>get brass of varying sizes from 
><http://www.rjleahy.com/>www.rjleahy.com.  They 
>will cut to a reasonable shipping size.  I don’t 
>know the configuration of this piano but maybe 
>you can send pictures and some suggestions could 
>be made by various people, I’m sure.  If the 
>noise disappeared originally by muting the front 
>duplex, it is likely that there is leakage 
>occurring and that’s what you should 
>address.  Shortening the section and increasing 
>the deflection can do that.  You do want to be 
>sure that the angle and deflection work 
>together.  The longer the duplex the greater the 
>deflection angle.  Similarly, a shorter duplex requires smaller angle.
>
>
>David Love
>davidlovepianos at comcast.net
>
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