Yikes... Why don't you give it a try a let us know whether it worked or not. You will probably learn a lot more that way than and other way... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: pianotune05 <pianotune05 at comcast.net> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org> Received: 3/10/2006 8:31:14 AM Subject: piano actions >Hi everyone, >My neighbor has an old upright that his daughter uses for practice but >needs quite a bit of work. He mentioned that some hammers were missing in >the trebble section. I have a couple of old actions here in my garage from >old uprights that are not is as bad of shape. Is it possible to take one >action out and replace it with another if they both were from old uprights? >If this question is in the archives, I apologize, but I'm honestly not >certain how to use the archives. :) Thanks everyone. >Marshall >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jcgrassi at earthlink.net> >To: "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech at ptg.org> >Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:19 AM >Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >Yes, the plate was redone. And your suggestions might be a clue. >jeannie >Jeannie Grassi, RPT >Registered Piano Technician >Island Piano Service >Bainbridge Island, WA >206-842-3721 >mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >Of Greg Newell >Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:06 PM >To: Pianotech List >Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >Did you repaint the plate? Perhaps the new finish was less gummy than the >old. >Greg Newell >\At 11:20 PM 3/9/2006, you wrote: >>That's really helpful, David. The piano is long >>gone, but it was slipping out away from the >>pins. The puzzling thing was that there had >>been a half round there previously with nothing >>underneath it. I don't know why that stayed in >>place. I'll remember this tip for the next time it happens. >>jeannie >> >>Jeannie Grassi, RPT >>Registered Piano Technician >>Island Piano Service >>Bainbridge Island, WA >>206-842-3721 >><mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net >> >> >>---------- >>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org >>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love >>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:09 PM >>To: 'Pianotech List' >>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >> >>With the tension on can you tap it back into >>place and will it stay? If not, then the angle >>of that part of the plate isn't right to hold it >>in place with just string pressure. When >>installing an entire length in such situations I >>usually pin it. However for your testing >>purpose you won't want to do that. Does it tend >>to slip toward the tuning pins or away from >>them? If it's toward the tuning pins you might >>cut a short, thin strip of wood that you can >>place between the new brass half round and the >>old counterbearing bar to hold it in place. If >>it's slipping away from the tuning pins.I'll have to think about that one. >> >> >>David Love >>davidlovepianos at comcast.net >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org >>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jeannie Grassi >>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:53 PM >>To: 'Pianotech List' >>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >> >>I had a problem keep a length of brass half >>round in place. I'm interested in knowing what >>people use to make sure it doesn't move. It was >>a longer piece that extended the entire treble >>area. It was a slippery little thing that >>moved when the tension was brought up to pitch. >> >>jeannie >> >> >> >>Jeannie Grassi, RPT >>Registered Piano Technician >>Island Piano Service >>Bainbridge Island, WA >>206-842-3721 >><mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net >> >> >>---------- >>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org >>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Barbara Richmond >>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:40 PM >>To: Pianotech List >>Subject: Re: v-bar/capo repair >> >>Hi David, >> >>When experimenting duplex length with brass half >>or oval round, would you, in this case, place >>anything on the bottom of the brass to avoid >>scratching the plate? Or isn't it a problem? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Barbara Richmond >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:davidlovepianos at comcast.net>David Love >>To: <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>'Pianotech List' >>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:25 PM >>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >> >>Like Ron N. says, I think it's likely it has to >>do with the front duplex and you may be able to >>shorten, detune and increase the deflection >>angle by inserting some brass of appropriate >>dimensionat least you can experiment. If it >>turns out that that's the problem, it's not that >>big a deal to remove the strings from one >>section and insert the new counterbearing piece >>and then replace the strings (the same ones you >>took off). Unhook them from the tuning pins >>slip in the brass or whatever and then >>reattachif that proves to be the problem. I >>get brass of varying sizes from >><http://www.rjleahy.com/>www.rjleahy.com. They >>will cut to a reasonable shipping size. I don't >>know the configuration of this piano but maybe >>you can send pictures and some suggestions could >>be made by various people, I'm sure. If the >>noise disappeared originally by muting the front >>duplex, it is likely that there is leakage >>occurring and that's what you should >>address. Shortening the section and increasing >>the deflection can do that. You do want to be >>sure that the angle and deflection work >>together. The longer the duplex the greater the >>deflection angle. Similarly, a shorter duplex requires smaller angle. >> >> >>David Love >>davidlovepianos at comcast.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >Greg Newell >Greg's Piano Forté >mailto:gnewell at ameritech.net >www.gregspianoforte.com >_______________________________________________ >Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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