Hi Dave, I wasn't certain. I know ford Taurus and Sable use the same engine. I thought that the principle would be similar. well never hurts to ask I guess. The funny things is, my neighbor is one of those know it all types, so I'm sure he'll try something in order to fix that old piano which might not even be tunable. I need go over and take a closer look at it. Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: RE: piano actions > Yikes... > > Why don't you give it a try a let us know whether it worked or not. > You will probably learn a lot more that way than and other way... > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, California > > > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: pianotune05 <pianotune05 at comcast.net> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org> > Received: 3/10/2006 8:31:14 AM > Subject: piano actions > > >>Hi everyone, >>My neighbor has an old upright that his daughter uses for practice but >>needs quite a bit of work. He mentioned that some hammers were missing in >>the trebble section. I have a couple of old actions here in my garage >>from >>old uprights that are not is as bad of shape. Is it possible to take one >>action out and replace it with another if they both were from old >>uprights? >>If this question is in the archives, I apologize, but I'm honestly not >>certain how to use the archives. :) Thanks everyone. >>Marshall >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jcgrassi at earthlink.net> >>To: "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech at ptg.org> >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:19 AM >>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair > > >>Yes, the plate was redone. And your suggestions might be a clue. >>jeannie > > >>Jeannie Grassi, RPT >>Registered Piano Technician >>Island Piano Service >>Bainbridge Island, WA >>206-842-3721 >>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On >>Behalf >>Of Greg Newell >>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:06 PM >>To: Pianotech List >>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair > >>Did you repaint the plate? Perhaps the new finish was less gummy than the >>old. > >>Greg Newell > > >>\At 11:20 PM 3/9/2006, you wrote: >>>That's really helpful, David. The piano is long >>>gone, but it was slipping out away from the >>>pins. The puzzling thing was that there had >>>been a half round there previously with nothing >>>underneath it. I don't know why that stayed in >>>place. I'll remember this tip for the next time it happens. >>>jeannie >>> >>>Jeannie Grassi, RPT >>>Registered Piano Technician >>>Island Piano Service >>>Bainbridge Island, WA >>>206-842-3721 >>><mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org >>>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love >>>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:09 PM >>>To: 'Pianotech List' >>>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >>> >>>With the tension on can you tap it back into >>>place and will it stay? If not, then the angle >>>of that part of the plate isn't right to hold it >>>in place with just string pressure. When >>>installing an entire length in such situations I >>>usually pin it. However for your testing >>>purpose you won't want to do that. Does it tend >>>to slip toward the tuning pins or away from >>>them? If it's toward the tuning pins you might >>>cut a short, thin strip of wood that you can >>>place between the new brass half round and the >>>old counterbearing bar to hold it in place. If >>>it's slipping away from the tuning pins.I'll have to think about that >>>one. >>> >>> >>>David Love >>>davidlovepianos at comcast.net >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org >>>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jeannie Grassi >>>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:53 PM >>>To: 'Pianotech List' >>>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >>> >>>I had a problem keep a length of brass half >>>round in place. I'm interested in knowing what >>>people use to make sure it doesn't move. It was >>>a longer piece that extended the entire treble >>>area. It was a slippery little thing that >>>moved when the tension was brought up to pitch. >>> >>>jeannie >>> >>> >>> >>>Jeannie Grassi, RPT >>>Registered Piano Technician >>>Island Piano Service >>>Bainbridge Island, WA >>>206-842-3721 >>><mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net>mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org >>>[mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Barbara Richmond >>>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:40 PM >>>To: Pianotech List >>>Subject: Re: v-bar/capo repair >>> >>>Hi David, >>> >>>When experimenting duplex length with brass half >>>or oval round, would you, in this case, place >>>anything on the bottom of the brass to avoid >>>scratching the plate? Or isn't it a problem? >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Barbara Richmond >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: <mailto:davidlovepianos at comcast.net>David Love >>>To: <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>'Pianotech List' >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:25 PM >>>Subject: RE: v-bar/capo repair >>> >>>Like Ron N. says, I think it's likely it has to >>>do with the front duplex and you may be able to >>>shorten, detune and increase the deflection >>>angle by inserting some brass of appropriate >>>dimensionat least you can experiment. If it >>>turns out that that's the problem, it's not that >>>big a deal to remove the strings from one >>>section and insert the new counterbearing piece >>>and then replace the strings (the same ones you >>>took off). Unhook them from the tuning pins >>>slip in the brass or whatever and then >>>reattachif that proves to be the problem. I >>>get brass of varying sizes from >>><http://www.rjleahy.com/>www.rjleahy.com. They >>>will cut to a reasonable shipping size. I don't >>>know the configuration of this piano but maybe >>>you can send pictures and some suggestions could >>>be made by various people, I'm sure. If the >>>noise disappeared originally by muting the front >>>duplex, it is likely that there is leakage >>>occurring and that's what you should >>>address. Shortening the section and increasing >>>the deflection can do that. You do want to be >>>sure that the angle and deflection work >>>together. The longer the duplex the greater the >>>deflection angle. Similarly, a shorter duplex requires smaller angle. >>> >>> >>>David Love >>>davidlovepianos at comcast.net >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >>Greg Newell >>Greg's Piano Forté >>mailto:gnewell at ameritech.net >>www.gregspianoforte.com > > >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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