Ed, this brings to mind a question. I know of a technician in the western U.S who passes out the guild pamphlets and has a PTG logo on his card. How ever he has never been a member of the guild and has no plans to become one. What if anything can the PTG do about this. I know its probably a subject that is more appropriate for one of our other mailing lists, but it seems to me that a little discussion is not going to kill anyone. It is a disgrace for any member of the PTG who has abided by the policies we have in place. When I first became a member they had just put into place that associates couldn't use the guild logo anymore. At first I was a little tiffed about that but I got over it. So it really sticks in my craw when non RPTs don't obey the same rules as I was supposed to. I had no access to the invoices, patches or anything that had the PTG on it, but some how people who are not members get a hold of this stuff and misuse it. I still think we should have a logo that the piano dealers could display. All of our dealers here in Cincinnati are members of the PTG, that is one of the good things I can say about all of them. Even though membership to them is just politics at least they are members. Regards, Shawn Brock, RPT 513-316-0563 www.shawnbrock.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com> To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Cc: <barbcassaday at ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status" > Duaine Hechler: > > On your web site http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com/aboutme.html you have > the Piano Technicians Guild logo, with no indication of your membership > status. You are not a member of PTG, by your own testimony. > > This is dishonest and illegal, and shows you don't respect the rules of > the organization. > > PTG members are incredibly generous in sharing knowledge, experience and > skills, and in helping Associates who want to learn to become good > technicians. Playing by the rules is how you earn our trust and respect. > You are not playing by the rules. > > Ed Sutton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duaine & Laura Hechler" <dahechler at charter.net> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:11 AM > Subject: Re: [pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status" > > >> So, what you are saying that if I can't tune aurally then I should not >> be tuning at all. >> >> If that's the case, you are about to start a major war between each >> tuner's opinion. >> >> Again, you mention peers, sure most of my peers in this area have tuned >> aurally - to pass the test - but they have all switched to tuning with >> some form of ETD. >> >> Again, you mention clients - I don't know where you are and who you tune >> for BUT none of my clients have EVER asked if I could tune aurally. >> >> This argument is getting so &*&^% old !!!! >> >> Duaine >> >> William Monroe wrote: >>> No Duaine, >>> >>> People like you should be excluded from RPT precisely because (your >>> description, mind you) you can't tune aurally and have no >>> understanding of the basic tuning concepts e.g. intervals, beats, >>> checks, etc. RPT is a designation that is defined in part by >>> affirming to ones peers, clients, etc that one can tune aurally - at >>> least to some measured degree, even with an ETD. >> <snip> >>> >>> Good luck in your growth. >>> >>> William R. Monroe >> >> >> >> > >
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