[pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status"

[Tom Servinsky]

Duaine, this is my last word and this subject and hope others will follow 
suit. You stepped deep into this one.
 My advise is to quiet your remarks, think about the substance of some of 
the responses, and go about re-thinking your rationale. You are way out in 
left field on this matter and the more you remark with unsubstantiated 
comments, the more you are showing your lack of understanding of this trade. 
As the old saying goes "give someone enough rope and they will eventually 
hang themselves".
Take a breather my friend and listen closely to those trying to point out 
some rather obvious flaws to your comments. The beauty of this list is the 
wealth of substance, and the years of experience that fellow techs are more 
than willing to share.

Tom Servinsky
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Cc: <barbcassaday at ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status"


> Duaine Hechler:
>
> On your web site http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com/aboutme.html you have 
> the Piano Technicians Guild logo, with no indication of your membership 
> status. You are not a member of PTG, by your own testimony.
>
> This is dishonest and illegal, and shows you don't respect the rules of 
> the organization.
>
> PTG members are incredibly generous in sharing knowledge, experience and 
> skills, and in helping Associates who want to learn to become good 
> technicians. Playing by the rules is how you earn our trust and respect. 
> You are not playing by the rules.
>
> Ed Sutton
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duaine & Laura Hechler" <dahechler at charter.net>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status"
>
>
>> So, what you are saying that if I can't tune aurally then I should not
>> be tuning at all.
>>
>> If that's the case, you are about to start a major war between each
>> tuner's opinion.
>>
>> Again, you mention peers, sure most of my peers in this area have tuned
>> aurally - to pass the test - but they have all switched to tuning with
>> some form of ETD.
>>
>> Again, you mention clients - I don't know where you are and who you tune
>> for BUT none of my clients have EVER asked if I could tune aurally.
>>
>> This argument is getting so &*&^% old !!!!
>>
>> Duaine
>>
>> William Monroe wrote:
>>> No Duaine,
>>>
>>> People like you should be excluded from RPT precisely because (your
>>> description, mind you) you can't tune aurally and have no
>>> understanding of the basic tuning concepts e.g. intervals, beats,
>>> checks, etc.  RPT is a designation that is defined in part by
>>> affirming to ones peers, clients, etc that one can tune aurally - at
>>> least to some measured degree, even with an ETD.
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Good luck in your growth.
>>>
>>> William R. Monroe
>>
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