Having a decent piano is soooo important when you're learning to listen for beats! When I started out, I had a 1947 Aldrich consolette with an aluminum plate....very difficult to hear anything. However, since I was studying with Steve Brady in his Univ. of WA days, I had a host of practice pianos to work on....some were pretty good Steinway grands. I figured if I could tune an Aldrich or a practice room piano with all the extra noise, I could tune anything! (I also learned to drive on a '46 Willys jeep..same principle; If I could learn to drive that, I could drive anything!) Both came true!! :>) The fustration levels were very high during my first few months, though! Paul "William Monroe" <pianotech at a440piano.net> Sent by: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org 12/23/2008 07:48 AM Please respond to pianotech at ptg.org To <pianotech at ptg.org> cc Subject Re: [pianotech] RPT exam? Hmmmm, I dunno. I've always used beats and don't know of another "method." Maybe some Virgil acolytes can suggest something? An upright player would probably work reasonably well for hearing what you need to hear in tuning. I'm assuming 48" or larger? If so, it should work fine. I learned on a Yamaha M430 (44" console). Not too bad. Otherwise, as someone else suggested, the beat locator cards by Jim Coleman and Randy Potter's tuning video is a good learning tool (if a bit verbose). I think it's safe to say that I've put in at least a few hundred hours of direct aural tuning study (simply practicing), and many thousands of hours indirectly (while tuning others instruments) - which continues daily. William R. Monroe Basically, not many. When I took that class with Jim Coleman, it was on a baby grand. He expressed that it is easier the bigger the piano, ie, full size grand. I own an - upright - player piano. And, I have no regular access to any grand - baby or otherwise. Since I am a singer, barbershop, a capella, I understand the intervals - to the extent that it's - seconds, thirds, fourths, etc. and don't listen for beats. Is there a way to translate "beats" into "intervals". Meaning, so if I need to check a fourth, how to I do that without worrying about beats. Duaine William Monroe wrote: Part 1 is setting A4=440, then temperament and midrange (C3-B4), aurally. How many hours have you practiced aural tuning, Duaine? William R. Monroe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081223/1da504c9/attachment.html>
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