[pianotech] Verdigris in Action Centers

Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 30 15:50:59 PST 2008


I made one many years ago, but have since lost it. It was made using a 
transformer I purchased from an electronics store. I don't remember the 
output voltage. Does anyone know what the output voltage should be?

Al G

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From: "John Ross" <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:34 PM
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Verdigris in Action Centers

> I don't recollect that they were made for purchase.
> I remember back in the 70's seeing a diagram, on how to make one.
> It seemed fairly simple.
> Mind you that is when I was repairing electronic organs as well.
> It might have been a Journal article.
> John Ross
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pianoman" <pianoman at accessus.net>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Verdigris in Action Centers
>
>
> Anyone know where a zapper can be purchased?
> James
> James Grebe
> Since 1962
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Mannino" <donmannino at ca.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Verdigris in Action Centers
>
>
>> David,
>>
>>
>>
>> 4 possible solutions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Wash and lube. Quickest. Apply Dry-cleaning solution (VMP Naphtha)
>> followed by some form of lubricant. Temporary.
>>
>> 2. Wash and repin. More work. Disassemble parts, wash the wood and
>> bushings
>> with Naphtha, blow them out with low-pressure compressed air, burnish /
>> ream
>> with broaches, repin.  Longer lasting, but still temporary.
>>
>> 3. Evaporate, wash, and repin. Some have had success with parts only
>> containing the original waxy goop (which is likely very rare by now - 
>> most
>> have been lubricated with something over the years to try to free them
>> up).
>> You can try "Zapping" them in place, as with the original Francis Mehaffy
>> zapper, then lubing the parts.  Or disassemble them, zap the bushings
>> separately, then dry-clean and repin. Still temporary, in my experience,
>> although some proponents claim it is permanent.  I think permanence in
>> this
>> case might equal "I never heard back from them."  Anybody have a zapper
>> they
>> want to send to David to try??
>>
>> 4. Replace the parts (of course). Expensive but permanent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recommendation: Inform the piano owner that anything short of replacing
>> the
>> parts will most likely be temporary, and write it on your receipt.  Have
>> them sign a copy, and keep it in your files.  I have had customers sell
>> pianos I did temporary jobs on, and tell the buyer that it was completely
>> rebuilt and warranted by me!
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Mannino
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Paul Kunz
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:29 AM
>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>> Subject: [pianotech] Verdigris in Action Centers
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am wondering what the latest recommendations are for severe verdigris 
>> on
>> old Steinway Action Centers.  Reaming and repining has never to my mind
>> been
>> a permanent solution; therefore in the past I have tended to replace
>> whippens and shanks.  However, in a very old Steinway when the customer 
>> is
>> not willing to spend the money, and repining appears to be only temporary
>> and time consuming, what type of chemical treatment has been found to be
>> the
>> most effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David C. Kunz
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> John M.Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada.
>
>
> 



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