The world can surely accommodate more than one business model. Before we make the mistake of assuming that there is only one kind of client base, realize (as I'm sure you do) that we're just talking about which column to list that "padding" under. (Like what Dave Love just said) The decision would be based upon our own organizational sense, as well as taking into account what the particular customer base finds more acceptable. And it would all be moot unless you're talking about how this information is presented to a client. (unless you want to debate the ethics of profit. I don't.). Assuming that a particular price is not out of reach for that client, is there a meaningful difference if that price is comprised of a higher parts price and lower hourly price, or in reverse? Similarly, what do you suppose the difference in client response would be if the material costs, including mark-up, were clearly spelled out, vs. having this information hidden? A business that is less service and more sales oriented will obviously be more dependent upon the profit derived from larger mark-up. The confusion perhaps derives from the difference in kinds of materials subject to mark-up. Parts for a rebuild vs. a bench or metronome. Also, it may not always be reasonable to mark-up by a fixed percentage. For example, even allowing for the rationality of concept, why should there be a difference in the actual mark-up amount between two similar items, one of whose price is already inflated? David Skolnik RPT Hastings on Hudson, NY At 09:47 AM 2/13/2008, you wrote: >On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:39 AM, Dean May wrote: > >>Failing to set a markup only means you are losing money (or failing >>to value yourself), unless you pad your standard labor rates. It's >>simple economics. > >I charge for every single minute we work on the pianos and more; I >put in a big "pad," which is NEVER a pad, for the inevitable extra >work and Murphy's Law stuff that happens....every time. And it works >out to much more than adding a 40% markup to parts. > >David Andersen >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1276 - Release Date: >2/13/2008 9:41 AM
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