CF carbon fiber lever

[David Andersen]

On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Jurgen Goering wrote:

> I am planning to get Charles to make me a custom tuning lever using  
> some ebony I have.   I was just thinking of getting his standard   
> (up to now) titanium shaft.  Do you think the carbon shaft is that  
> much superior?
Absolutely.
>   The head on the carbon tool seems a bit big and bulky (it is a  
> lot bigger than on the titanium shaft) - does that interfere with  
> sight lines when moving the tool for pin to pin?
No---you just have to put the handle at 11 or 12 o'clock on some  
grands on the note on the bass side of the plate struts...but it  
doesn't bother me in the least
DA
>
> Jurgen Goering
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 18:02, pianotech-request at ptg.org wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Grand Piano drop screw tool? (Joe And Penny Goss)
>>    2. Re: Lunar Drama - OT (paulrevenkojones at aol.com)
>>    3. Re: CF carbon fiber lever (David Andersen)
>>    4. Re: Lunar Drama - OT (Farrell)
>>    5. Grand pianos for sale to rebuild (Rob & Helen Goodale)
>>    6. Re: CF carbon fiber lever (Kent Swafford)
>>    7. RE: Whole room humidity control better than Dampp Chaser. (
>>       Right?) (Don)
>>    8. RE: Whole room humidity control better than Dampp Chaser. (
>>       Right?) (Don)
>>    9. Re: Lunar Drama - OT (Avery Todd)
>>   10. Re: Vintage Piano Shop (Avery Todd)
>>
>> From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr at srvinet.com>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:15:28 PST
>> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Re: Grand Piano drop screw tool?
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> The tool is made by Jahn
>> Joe Goss RPT
>> Mother Goose Tools
>> imatunr at srvinet.com
>> www.mothergoosetools.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kent Swafford" <kswafford at gmail.com>
>> To: <pianotuner at embarqmail.com>; "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Grand Piano drop screw tool?
>>
>>
>>> Same tool. With some difficulty I was able to narrow the blade  
>>> inside
>>> the barrel so it would fit the tiny drop screw slots. I suppose it's
>>> possible that Pianotek later started making the tool with a properly
>>> narrowed blade -- hope so.
>>>
>>> Kent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:18 PM, Alan Barnard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice thumb shot, Kent!
>>>>
>>>> This is the tool I have
>>>> <1.jpg>
>>>>
>>>> Is it the same one? Mine has a slotted end and a driver end, both
>>>> with "shields" around them to keep the tool from slipping off the
>>>> screw. But the collars, or shields, don't seem quite as fat,
>>>> proportionally, as the one in your picture. Anyway, I don't quite
>>>> understand what you did to modify yours, based on the picture. Some
>>>> beveling?
>>>>
>>>> Alan Barnard
>>>> Salem, MO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: paulrevenkojones at aol.com
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:20:08 PST
>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: Lunar Drama - OT
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> Nahhh. I'm going to go look at the eclipse (I love cosmic stuff!)  
>> even though up here we have a heat wave--it's maybe 6 above with  
>> windchill putting it at 5 below. Do you know that word, Terry?  
>> Windchill? Say "windchill". Sucks all of the moisture right out of  
>> you!
>>> Oh crud. Did I put my foot in my mouth - again?!?!?!?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Farrell <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com>
>>  To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>  Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 7:03 pm
>>  Subject: Re: Lunar Drama - OT
>>
>> Oh crud. Did I put my foot in my mouth - again?!?!?!?
>>
>> Terry Farrell
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> Ah, well, ok, but it's more painful to put your foot in your  
>>> mouth with shoes on, Terry! Always be prepared, I say! :-)
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/LEmono/TLE2008Feb21/ 
>>> TLE2008Feb21.html
>>>
>>> Big show in the sky tonight. Don't miss it!
>>>
>>> Show begins at 8:43 PM EST and gets into full swing at 10:01 PM.
>>>
>>> Put down those hand planes, turn off your CNC router, pack away  
>>> your regulating tools for the night, grab a beer and a lounge  
>>> chair and sit back and watch the show!
>>>
>>> I reckon those much north of Tampa, might consider putting on a  
>>> jacket or something. I mean don't worry, it's pretty darn cold  
>>> here too. I just checked the temp outside and the mercury has  
>>> plummeted to 66 degrees F. Heck, I might even put shoes on  
>>> tonight.....
>>>
>>> ;-)
>
>>>   (all in good fun!)
>>>
>>> Terry Farrell
>>  More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail!
>>
>> From: David Andersen <david at davidandersenpianos.com>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:03:03 PST
>> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Re: CF carbon fiber lever
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>>  I'll weigh in here....I've been using a prototype like yours,  
>> Kent, from Charles Faulk, for about the same amount of time; I had  
>> exclusively used his titanium lever for the 3 years prior; I  
>> immediately fell even more in love with the carbon lever, and  
>> refused to send it back. <g>
>>
>> I highly, highly recommend the carbon fiber lever; it's like  
>> touching your lover's face with surgical gloves on, rather than  
>> the work gloves of normal levers---the pin sensitivity is just off  
>> the charts.
>>
>>> http://www.faulkpiano.com/CFTuningHammer/
>> BTW I also used Dale Erwin's Fujan lever to tune at Disney Hall a  
>> couple months ago---and I loved it too. I just think Charlie's  
>> tool looks prettier, and I like it a little better....a carbon  
>> fiber lever should be your next "big" tool purchase.
>> David Andersen
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Kent Swafford wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using a prototype of a new tuning lever since October.  
>>> It has a 5/8" carbon fiber shaft, a custom handle, and a full- 
>>> sleeve aluminum head. The lever is long but still light-weight.  
>>> The tubular head provides for a very stiff overall feel. I wasn't  
>>> in the market for a new lever, but I ended up asking to purchase  
>>> the prototype because I liked it so much.
>>>
>>> You can see the production version at:
>>>
>>> http://www.faulkpiano.com/CFTuningHammer/
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a happy customer,
>>>
>>> Kent Swafford
>>>
>>> <cf.jpg>
>>
>> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:40:01 PST
>> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Re: Lunar Drama - OT
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> We don't have wind chill down in these here parts. We have the  
>> "feels-like" temperature. As in, it's only 92 degrees out, but  
>> because it is so humid, it "feels-like" it's 99 degrees.
>>
>> Hey, the weather is absolutely perfect here right now. Ask me how  
>> much I luvin' the south in July. You might find I'm singing  
>> another tune!
>>
>> Terry Farrell
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: paulrevenkojones at aol.com
>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Lunar Drama - OT
>>>
>>> Nahhh. I'm going to go look at the eclipse (I love cosmic stuff!)  
>>> even though up here we have a heat wave--it's maybe 6 above with  
>>> windchill putting it at 5 below. Do you know that word, Terry?  
>>> Windchill? Say "windchill". Sucks all of the moisture right out  
>>> of you!
>>>> Oh crud. Did I put my foot in my mouth - again?!?!?!?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Farrell <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com>
>>> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 7:03 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Lunar Drama - OT
>>>
>>> Oh crud. Did I put my foot in my mouth - again?!?!?!?
>>>
>>> Terry Farrell
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> Ah, well, ok, but it's more painful to put your foot in your  
>>>> mouth with shoes on, Terry! Always be prepared, I say! :-)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/LEmono/TLE2008Feb21/ 
>>>> TLE2008Feb21.html
>>>>
>>>> Big show in the sky tonight. Don't miss it!
>>>>
>>>> Show begins at 8:43 PM EST and gets into full swing at 10:01 PM.
>>>>
>>>> Put down those hand planes, turn off your CNC router, pack away  
>>>> your regulating tools for the night, grab a beer and a lounge  
>>>> chair and sit back and watch the show!
>>>>
>>>> I reckon those much north of Tampa, might consider putting on a  
>>>> jacket or something. I mean don't worry, it's pretty darn cold  
>>>> here too. I just checked the temp outside and the mercury has  
>>>> plummeted to 66 degrees F. Heck, I might even put shoes on  
>>>> tonight.....
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>
>>>>   (all in good fun!)
>>>>
>>>> Terry Farrell More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL  
>>>> Mail!
>>
>> From: "Rob & Helen Goodale" <rrg at unlv.nevada.edu>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:46:14 PST
>> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Grand pianos for sale to rebuild
>> Reply-To: Rob & Helen Goodale <rrg at unlv.nevada.edu>, Pianotech  
>> List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>
>>
>>
>> I have a couple pianos I'd like to clear out of my shop.  I would  
>> really prefer to rebuild them but I really need the space right  
>> now and I've got enough projects going that I don't know when I'll  
>> have time to get to them.  They are very rebuildable and should  
>> become fine pianos.
>
>>
>>
>> The first is a Baldwin #17391.  It is 6'  3" which I believe makes  
>> it a model "L".  Case is black, no bench.  It requires a full  
>> rebuild but it should be a real honey of a piano when completed.   
>> It is currently on it's side but I remember it having a very big  
>> sound even as it is.  This should make a great rebuild job and  
>> easy to sell to a professional.  Price is $3,000 firm.
>
>>
>>
>> The second is a 5' 4" Knabe.  The piano is on it's side between  
>> two others so I can't really get a good look at the serial number  
>> but suffice it to say that it is most likely 1920s.  It also  
>> requires rebuilding.  It was formally an Ampico player which is no  
>> longer present but that has no consequence on it as a regular  
>> piano.  Technically it is the same as the equivalent model  
>> without.  Again it has a good sound even as-is but should become a  
>> fantastic piano when rebuilt.  Price is $2,000 firm.
>
>>
>>
>> Buyer pays shipping but I will be happy to make all necessary  
>> arrangements at this end including local pick-up and transfer to  
>> keyboard carriage.  This is a great opportunity to snatch up a  
>> couple of nice rebuildable pianos at a fair price.  They deserve  
>> to be in the hands of a good rebuilder and then to a new happy home.
>
>>
>>
>> Hurry, first come - first sold!
>
>>
>>
>> Rob Goodale, RPT
>
>>
>> Las Vegas, NV
>
>>
>> From: Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:48:23 PST
>> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Re: CF carbon fiber lever
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> I've been wondering who the other beta testers were. Great to hear  
>> you were as impressed as I was.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:03 PM, David Andersen wrote:
>>
>>>  I'll weigh in here....I've been using a prototype like yours,  
>>> Kent, from Charles Faulk, for about the same amount of time; I  
>>> had exclusively used his titanium lever for the 3 years prior; I  
>>> immediately fell even more in love with the carbon lever, and  
>>> refused to send it back. <g>
>>>
>>> I highly, highly recommend the carbon fiber lever; it's like  
>>> touching your lover's face with surgical gloves on, rather than  
>>> the work gloves of normal levers---the pin sensitivity is just  
>>> off the charts.
>>>
>>>> http://www.faulkpiano.com/CFTuningHammer/
>>> BTW I also used Dale Erwin's Fujan lever to tune at Disney Hall a  
>>> couple months ago---and I loved it too. I just think Charlie's  
>>> tool looks prettier, and I like it a little better....a carbon  
>>> fiber lever should be your next "big" tool purchase.
>>> David Andersen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Kent Swafford wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been using a prototype of a new tuning lever since October.  
>>>> It has a 5/8" carbon fiber shaft, a custom handle, and a full- 
>>>> sleeve aluminum head. The lever is long but still light-weight.  
>>>> The tubular head provides for a very stiff overall feel. I  
>>>> wasn't in the market for a new lever, but I ended up asking to  
>>>> purchase the prototype because I liked it so much.
>>>>
>>>> You can see the production version at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.faulkpiano.com/CFTuningHammer/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just a happy customer,
>>>>
>>>> Kent Swafford
>>>>
>>>> <cf.jpg>
>>
>> From: Don <pianotuna at accesscomm.ca>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 19:57:28 PST
>> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: RE: Whole room humidity control better than Dampp Chaser.  
>> ( Right?)
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dean,
>>
>> I agree with your lack of encounters.
>>
>> If someone would post results from a properly controlled room,  
>> then we
>> would know. For now I believe that properly serviced DC systems in  
>> pianos
>> with covers blow away any hivac controlled piano room as far as pitch
>> stability goes.
>>
>> At 05:31 PM 2/20/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>>> I think you may be technically correct, a properly controlled  
>>> room is the
>>> best, I just never encounter such a room in the real world.
>>
>>> Dean
>> Regards,
>> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
>> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat
>>
>> mailto:pianotuna at yahoo.com	http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/
>>
>> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7
>> 306-539-0716 or 1-888-29t-uner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don <pianotuna at accesscomm.ca>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 19:49:27 PST
>> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: RE: Whole room humidity control better than Dampp Chaser.  
>> ( Right?)
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dean,
>>
>> That would vary with your location. I do not say DC's without  
>> covers don't
>> work--just that they work much better. Bottom covers vs no bottom  
>> covers
>> here is some data.
>>
>> 2006 02 pitch correction between 9.4 cents (A4) worst note 20  
>> cents (bottom
>> cover removed by client's cat some time after 2005 02 {DC install  
>> since
>> 1992 6 foot grand})
>>
>> 2007 02 pitch correction between 3.3 cents (A4), worst note 9.4 cents
>> (bottom cover put in place one month before tuning in 2007)
>>
>> 2008 02 pitch correction between 1.9 (A4), worst note 4.5 cents
>>
>> I have no clients with string covers, so I have no data. I do  
>> encourage my
>> clients to fully close the lid. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it  
>> doesn't.
>> I'd dearly love to do installs with both string covers and bottom  
>> covers.
>>
>> At 05:16 PM 2/20/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>>> I have years of anecdotal evidence on scores of installations  
>>> that say
>>> otherwise. Perhaps a string cover increases their effectiveness,  
>>> but on many
>>> of my installations I dont know how. Im talking about pianos  
>>> that had +/-
>>> 25 cent seasonal variation that went to +/- 2.
>>
>>> Dean
>>
>>> 10:26 AM
>> Regards,
>> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
>> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat
>>
>> mailto:pianotuna at yahoo.com	http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/
>>
>> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7
>> 306-539-0716 or 1-888-29t-uner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Avery Todd" <ptuner1 at gmail.com>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 18:01:40 PST
>> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Re: Lunar Drama - OT
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> Too many clouds in Houston tonight to be able to see it!
>>
>> Avery Todd
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Farrell  
>> <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>> http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/LEmono/TLE2008Feb21/ 
>>> TLE2008Feb21.html
>>>
>>> Big show in the sky tonight. Don't miss it!
>>>
>>> Show begins at 8:43 PM EST and gets into full swing at 10:01 PM.
>>>
>>> Put down those hand planes, turn off your CNC router, pack away  
>>> your regulating tools for the night, grab a beer and a lounge  
>>> chair and sit back and watch the show!
>>>
>>> I reckon those much north of Tampa, might consider putting on a  
>>> jacket or something. I mean don't worry, it's pretty darn cold  
>>> here too. I just checked the temp outside and the mercury has  
>>> plummeted to 66 degrees F. Heck, I might even put shoes on  
>>> tonight.....
>>>
>>> ;-)
>
>>>   (all in good fun!)
>>>
>>> Terry Farrell
>>> Farrell Piano
>>>
>>> www.farrellpiano.com
>>> terry at farrellpiano.com
>>
>> From: "Avery Todd" <ptuner1 at gmail.com>
>> Date: February 20, 2008 17:55:49 PST
>> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Subject: Re: Vintage Piano Shop
>> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>
>>
>> That's one reason I like doing work for the dealer in Beaumont. He  
>> pays me when I get through and then I go home! Love it!
>>
>> Avery Todd
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Doremus  
>> <algiers_piano at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> No pay, thats the problem. I have had very slow paying dealers in  
>>> the
>>> last 2 years but always eventually got payed, except for one where I
>>>  didnt bill them because I felt obligated to tell the customer  
>>> that he'd
>>> bought a pig in a piano shape, that was a painful moment but he  
>>> really
>>> had been taken. Now so many people are buying pianos over the  
>>> internet,
>>>  which I dont get, it's like buying shoes, no two pairs fit the  
>>> same. I
>>> get a lot of calls for warranty work, tunings, set up etc and  
>>> right now
>>> at least I just dont need the aggravation unless I can have my  
>>> money in
>>>  a timely manner....
>>>
>>>
>>> --Dave
>>>  New Orleans
>>>
>>> Phil Bondi wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Are you not being compensated? That would be another story.
>>> >
>>> > -Phil Bondi(Fl)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > David Doremus wrote:
>>> >> Anyone out there had any dealings with them? I swear Im not  
>>> doing any
>>>  >> more work for out of town dealers unless I get paid up front....
>>> >>
>>> >> --Dave
>>> >>   New Orleans
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
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