Form your own Opinion

[David Ilvedson]

No, that was not your thoughts exactly.   I read your exact thoughts in your previous post.   
By the way, gas is an pretty big expense for us piano technicians.   Gas and more efficient cars is not off topic.   

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Matthew Todd" <toddpianoworks at att.net>
To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
Received: 5/24/2008 8:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: Form your own Opinion


>My thoughts exactly!!

>David Andersen <david at davidandersenpianos.com> wrote:  OMG. Let's just 
>demagogue and divide and show our worst and lowest motivations...that'll be fun.  
>Crawl back under your rock, and keep your troglodyte, stupid, homophobic cultural 
>opinions off this list. This disgusts me, and others, no doubt. Please. This is a 
>community.
>  

>  Grow up.
>  David A.
>  
>    On May 24, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:

>    Let's define our terms as well.  In this country, freedom of speech is talking 
>negative about Christians and spitting in the face of God.  But when you say your 
>feelings about gays in CA (YIKES!), it's called a hate crime.
>   
>  It is interesting though that not too long ago we were deep in the discussion of gas 
>prices, whether it was titled "OT" or not.  I guess we just choose our battles when it 
>strikes a nerve.
>   
>  Matthew

>"William R. Monroe" <pianotech at a440piano.net> wrote:
>    Yes, Jim,
>   
>  I know you're probably referencing the link Mr. Gisondi posted, but it's really about 
>his choice of written speech that is at issue.  Yes, we have rights that include 
>freedom of speech, but it can be done respectfully, and thoughtfully, which is 
>something Mr. Gisondi has failed to do since he has come on the list. 
>   
>  In this case, it's not about free speech rights, it's about decorum, discretion, a 
>gentleperson's agreement to not abuse their free speech rights in a forum such as 
>this.  Anyone is free to speak what they will, and if it's unanimously deemed vapid, 
>arrogant, ill-intentioned, and in all other ways inappropriate, they will likely receive 
>this (equally free, solicited, and I might say justifiable) type of treatment on the list.  
>I'll not add any more after this, but just had to get it off my chest.  Had this 
>heartburn for some time now.
>   
>  William R. Monroe
>   
>    Of course, isn't that what Freedom of Speech is all about . .  the right to say 
>things that are unpopular, inaccurate, etc.
>   
>  Didn't a lot of fine men and women over the years, from both our countries,
>give their lives so that we ALL could have this right . . . ??

>i taoally agree, though, that there are OTHER fora ( lat - plural of forum,)  for tjis 
>free expression, but not here . .

>  with respect
>   
>  Jim Kinnear
>