Thanks, David, exactly my sentiment. Seems a worthwhile area of inquiry. P In a message dated 8/28/2009 10:44:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes: If it's boring to you don't read it. For those questioning policy with customers regarding pitch raises and the necessity for follow up appointments it has relevance. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Groot Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:41 PM To: 'David Ilvedson'; pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] PR follow up Agreed. -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Ilvedson Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:48 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] PR follow up Zzzzzz........................ David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com To: pianotech at ptg.org Received: 8/28/2009 1:24:39 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] PR follow up >In a message dated 8/28/2009 7:14:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >rnossaman at cox.net writes: >Well, nobody asked, but in case at least that many care - in >my world, David's got it right. >Well, Ron, nobody did, but David has a perspective, as do you, which is not > "right" but self-informed, and so also not "wrong". >I see no reason, presuming the >piano's tunable in the first place, that it can't be left in >an acceptable >So, "acceptable" = "adequate" or "fine"? Which is it? > >Do these words mean nothing? Is there no distinction? > >state of tune after a pitch raise. If, during >the process, every realistic effort is made to pound the slack >out of the back scale, followed by a real attempt to leave a >stable string as you typically would, there's no reason you >shouldn't end up with a piano as in tune as if you hadn't done >a pitch raise. >Can you substitute the word "stable" in place of "in tune" and make the >same flat claim? (no pun intended) > > >I agree with everything else you say, but I don't know what kind of tuning >you are describing. > >Cheers, > >P >That's the de-fuzzifier. You can leave the >piano reflecting your typical standard of tuning after even a >substantial pitch raise. How long it will stay that way >depends mostly, in my experience, on how well you were able to >equalize segment tensions on both sides of the bridges. Some >techs have no conception of this, and some are fairly good at >it. I've done half-to-full semitone pitch raises, with >instructions to call for another tuning when it becomes >obvious it's needed, and tuned the piano two years later no >more off pitch than a stable piano tuned six months ago. I've >also had them quite rough in a month, indicating I hadn't >gotten segment tensions equalized as I had tried, even though >the piano was in good tune when I left. I think two weeks is >rushing it some for the follow up. A month is more reasonable >to me, or when it sounds like it needs it. But that's my call. >So, as usual, it depends. >Ron N _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090828-0, 08/28/2009 Tested on: 8/28/2009 11:41:01 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20090828/f224395b/attachment.htm>
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