[pianotech] Bobbling hammers and jack spring pressure?

PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Wed Jan 21 23:02:41 PST 2009


Jean-Luc:
 
Realize that what you are doing is increasing aftertouch (by raising the  
overall key height at the balance rail) which is the distance the jack  travels 
after escapement. The bobbling in this instance is caused by zero or  negative 
aftertouch, and the hammer butt is bouncing off the jack top (which is  not 
escaping) and "bobbling". I find it hard to believe that "new pianos"  suffer a 
general defect like this simply because of low humidity. 
 
Paul
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2009 12:22:12 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
Jlmatt at aol.com writes:

We have to deal with bobbling hammers in new pianos quite often after  they 
arrive here in the dry climate of New Mexico. but the jack spring has  nothing 
to do with it.
Raising the balance rail usually takes care of that problem. Try it on  one 
key, raise it with a couple of paper punchings, and reajust the lost  motion, 
and if that helps, then you can do it on all the keys quickly by  shimming the 
balance rail with a a few business cards or something
Good luck 
Jean-Luc
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2009 9:23:36 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
karlkaputt at hotmail.com writes:

List,

is there a way to ease the jack spring? I have problems  with a Yamaha P121N 
upright that has bobbling hammers. The hammer butt is  dancing on the jack 
tip. All regulation measures are okay and there is  enough aftertouch. I suspect 
the jack spring being too strong. Any thoughts  how to get it right? 

There is no lost motion, check is about 15 mm,  aftertouch is okay and I gave 
some talkum powder to the jack tip and the let  off button. The only thing 
that helped was to set the let off to 10 mm, but  that´s not a satisfying 
solution. The strange thing is that one could play  without bobbling hammers but 
something makes the player stop pressing down  the key before the let off point. 
A very subtile resistance gives the player  a hint that the key is pressed 
down now, but that´s not right. The player  could and should press further on. 
The strange thing is that this problem is  new for a few days. I should mention 
that we had very dry air last weeks and  the customer has a floor heating. 
Therefore I suspect a connection between  this problem and the dry air.

Any comments?

Gregor

 
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