By the way, most of us on the Lists for awhile,have had plenty of plain talkin' Joe. He hasn't been posting for quite awhile until recently. I thought retirement...HA! One thing is for sure, he isn't mellowing in his old age... '-] David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Groot" <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> To: tcole at cruzio.com; pianotech at ptg.org Received: 6/22/2009 6:41:26 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] Leveling keys >OK. Some interesting view points. Joe is cracking me up with his straight >forwardness. Even if he isn't intending too... >So far, via this thread and private emails, it's about 60/40. 60 % against, >40 % for it. Why and why not? If Steinway recommends it for their pianos >why not others too? >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >Of Thomas Cole >Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:12 PM >To: joegarrett at earthlink.net; pianotech at ptg.org >Subject: Re: [pianotech] Leveling keys >Joe, I'm totally in agreement with you. If the middle of the keyboard >sags, you need to re-level the keys. Presumably if the keyboard is >crowned, the dip is "crowned" also, so when the keyboard sags in the >middle you still need to build the middle back up to restore proper keydip. >I wonder if Steinway still does this. >Tom Cole >Joseph Garrett wrote: >> Yes! I do Steinways FLAT, as in LEVEL! It's a stupid idea with no >> Merit whatsoever!!! If you look at the Fallboard edge, it's FLAT! The >> whole idea of the raised center was to off-set the area that got the >> most playing. It has nothing to do with regulating or action geometry >> and any other damned thing! Just Stupid! >> Joe >> >> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon) >> Captain, Tool Police >> Squares R I >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft >> <mailto:AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com> >> *To: *joegarrett at earthlink.net >> <mailto:joegarrett at earthlink.net>;pianotech at ptg.org >> <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> >> *Sent:* 6/22/09 3:23:31 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] Leveling keys >> >> I would hope you don't do a Steinway "flat", because you would not >> be regulating it according to specs. >> >> Steinway = curve. >> Most others = flat. >> >> That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! >> >> Al >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Joseph Garrett <mailto:joegarrett at earthlink.net> >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:19 PM >> *To:* pianotech <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> >> *Subject:* [pianotech] Leveling keys >> >> All, >> To me, the word level means FLAT And paralell to the floor! >> Anything else is Curving, which I don't do, because I think >> it's not smart thinkin'.<G> I mean, WHY? Just doesn't make >> sense to me. I have a Pratt-Read Stick, that has one side >> curved 1mm and the other is straight. It is a piece of wood, >> (suspect bass wood), with Ivorine on both sides. That sucker >> does not deviate one iota....ever! Wish they were still >> available. I use the curved side when I am leveling keys on my >> "Master Bench", which has a 1mm crown in it's 2" thick, 7' x >> 3' laminated maple top. That way, when the action is put back >> in the piano, the keys are LEVEL, as in flat, as in parallel >> to the floor/key bed.<G> If I am using the thing in the field, >> I always use the Straight side. I've never had a pianist ask >> for such an abomination, so why do it?' >> That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.<G> >> Regards, >> Joe >> >> >> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon) >> Captain, Tool Police >> Squares R I >> >> >> > _____ >avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090622-0, 06/22/2009 >Tested on: 6/22/2009 9:41:26 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software.
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