[pianotech] Capo Bars

Ron Overs sec at overspianos.com.au
Thu Mar 5 12:57:27 PST 2009


>But if brass is softer than the steel music wire, and I presume 
>softer than unhardened cast iron, then isn't the steel wire going to 
>cut a groove into the brass capo insert? And isn't that what we're 
>trying to avoid?
>
>Terry Farrell



Terry and all,
Indeed, that's exactly what happens, and yes it is what we are trying 
to avoid. There will be considerable variations in the drawing and 
treatment of various alloys, which is bound to result in considerable 
hardness variations. Some may be harder than unhardened cast, but I 
don't believe any are really suitable for supporting piano wire, 
because they are relatively too soft. I'm not a big fan of using 
other alloys for the capo, and I have replaced them a couple of times 
with hardened silver steel (which in its cheapest form is a straight 
high carbon alloy, and its not necessary to use the more expensive 
oil-hardening grade) with much improved results.

I can say from experience that the modern capo, if not hardened, is a 
disaster on account of its softness. As I have written previously, I 
suspect that this phenomenon of so much noise may be in part due to 
the longer freeze times which result from modern foundry practice - 
where two-pack chemical binders are typically used for the moulding 
sand and the mould is drier before the castings are poured. Overly 
long front counter-bearing lengths are as much to do with the 
problem. Our colleague Ron N. has also written about this in this 
thread.

Despite the fact that cast iron doesn't have as favourable a friction 
coefficient as some of the other alloys, when bearing against piano 
wire, the grooving that occurs with other alloys makes them also drag 
during rendering. While unhardened cast iron is not very good either, 
when properly hardened (there is hardening and hardening), the 
strings will render at five years just like the day that the piano 
was strung. I know this because I've been doing it for enough years, 
and following up our own instruments on a regular basis to know that 
it is a fact. The tone will still 'age' when the bar is hardened 
because tonal deterioration is a result of both bar and wire 
deformation, but the deterioration is less when an appropriately 
radiused and hardened bar, with appropriate string approach angles 
are used.

As I've written previously, care has to be applied with regard to 
maximum string approach angle and not making the bars too small in 
radius (which I have to avoid a propensity to do, in search of that 
really clean tone), but provided a commonsense approach is used, I 
believe hardening is a worthwhile practice for quality tone building.

Yesterday one commentator said

>
>>Why do manufacturers harden capo bars...
>
>Do they? How?  Cast iron is hard anyway.

Modern cast plates are very soft unless they are hardened. For any 
who doubt my claim, try placing a piece of piano wire across the capo 
bar at the strut between the two top string sections and hitting the 
wire towards the capo with a small hammer. The bar will be mangled 
while the wire will be untouched. If the same test is carried out 
with a hardened bar, the bar will be untouched while the wire will be 
mangled.

The hardness of the cast iron is related to both its analysis and the 
freeze time. Longer freeze-time plates such as V-pro plates, are very 
soft. They also don't respond to hardening as well as conventional 
sand cast plates. I seem to remember that V-pro plates typically have 
a higher phosphorus content to make them pour better. If this is so 
it may be the reason why they don't harden as well since phosphorus 
is known to reduce the effect of flame hardening. If there are any 
foundry men out there, they might like to comment on this.

I also did a custom job on a capo for a dealer here in Sydney in late 
2006. The piano had a plate with a soft capo bar and a short 
counterbearing length. There were problems with the tone of this 
quite new piano despite the fact that the counterbearing length was 
short, and I recommended that we shape and harden the bar. When I 
attempted to harden the bar it wouldn't cooperate at all. So I ground 
off the capo V, manufactured a new bar, hardened it and fitted it. 
The result was most satisfactory. Here's an image of the bar shown 
ready to be fitted to the piano. It is hardened and polished but not 
plated.


If you can't see the image, a copy can be found at;

http://users.tpg.com.au/ronovers/ptr.custom.capo.jpg

The square-section bar in the image is the off-cut of the ground 
stock from which the new bar was made.

There seem to be some who doubt whether a clean tone can be had from 
a piano with hard bars. Below are links to full length tracks of an 
Overs 225 with hardened capo's and hardened and detuned front duplex 
bars. These mp3 files were converted from an audio CD at 192K, so the 
sound is good with a freshly restarted computer using headphones or 
decent speakers.

http://users.tpg.com.au/onyxer/Corelli.mp3
Scott Davie's recording of Rachmaninoff's Variations on a Theme of 
Corelli, Op. 42
Piano: Overs 225 no. 3 - duration 18'38

Sydney jazz pianist and composer Mike Nock recorded a CD with his 
trio on an Overs 225 piano. The following mp3 of Mike's composition, 
Acceptance, can be heard at;

http://users.tpg.com.au/dotmewes/Acceptance.mp3
Piano: Overs 225 no. 3 - duration 7'04
The performers are; Mike Nock - piano, Brett Hirst - acoustic bass, 
Toby Hall - drums.


Ron O.
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OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY
    Grand Piano Manufacturers
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