Greetings,
It seems to me that a person who sings in a barbershop quartet has
an ear and the concentration to hear tones within tones and keep track of
which ones he has to sing! Its probably then just a matter of some tutoring on
the names of the tones ie; 4th, 5th etc, and then honing the skill by
practicing hearing.
By the way, thinking of the beginning of a song to get an interval?
such as; Here Comes the Bride for a perfect 4th and so on...There is nothing
wrong with that. NOTHING. In fact its best way to facilitate speed in
learning! Also, before a tuner gets the "exact note" they get the "approximate"
note.
Take ear training lessons. Any music teacher with a degree will know
what you are talking about when you ask for ear training lessons. Its just
like anything else, the more you do it or train; the better you get. After you
learn how to identify and reproduce intervals (vocally and on a piano, in
all 12 keys), then your ear may or (may not) be able to be trained to listen
for beats.
Some claim they cannot hear beats. (I think they just aren't
listening "honestly" enough to the blatantly obvious, or [rathr whats blant'y obv's
to me]) First, I'd say even before ear training, find out if you can hear
beats. Get with a tuner and have the person "test" your ears.
Hope this helps
Julia Gottshall
Reading, PA
In a message dated 3/8/2009 2:20:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:
A person that is absolutely non musical with no musical training or talent
shouldn't probably become a piano tuner. By that I don't mean the ability
to play, necessarily, but I do mean the ability to hear musically. Tuning
is mostly learning to hear. You can easily train yourself to recognize
various intervals and then learn to tune them by the standard aural
recognition methods involving coincident harmonics. If you are unable to
grasp what that is or learn to hear them then it is likely that another
profession would be more suitable.
Similarly, a person lacking any manual dexterity should probably not become
a surgeon, at least not one who will operate on me.
David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com
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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Duaine & Laura Hechler
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:29 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning question
Maybe, I need to get to basics for this question.
I am a barbershop singer, so I have a sense of what a 3rd, 5th, m7th,
octave sounds like.
Now, assume for the sake of this question, a non musical person that has
absolutely no other training and talent, wants to be a piano tuner.
Without the aid of a ETD and has no concept of note relations (3rds,
5ths, etc), how is he expected to learn aural tuning ? And learn it well
enough to pass the tests ?
I don't see any other choice for this person to use an ETD - and - never
be able to pass the test - so - how does he get to be an RPT?
Duaine
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