Ric...my brother....I know you love the tunings on the website...that's all me, all whole-tone, open-string tuning. Come to Grand Rapids and see how it's done. Andre's coming; let's have a party.... DA On Mar 10, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Richard Brekne wrote: > I've been reading back and forth and depending on how I read what I > find it really difficult to be in disagreement with any of the > apparently (to some degree at least) opposing views here. > > Clearly Virgil and guys like David Andersen can demonstrate aurally > wonderful tunings... and they claim they are listening to some kind > of beat phenomena that is apart from the simple beats produced by > coincident pairs. There is clearly a kind of sub-level beat produced > when several coincident pairs inter-react as is the case in playing > octaves, double octaves... etc. I posted a graph of this a few > years back produced on a wave program I have. And this sub beat > changes amplitude and rate depending on how all the partials line up. > > Perhaps this is what these folks are hearing... perhaps not... its > small in amplitude compared to the simple beats of partials. > > Its all very interesting to be sure... Cheers > RicB > > > I would disagree with Virgil about where beats come from. Of course, > they come from coincident partials. But it is true that one can tune > extremely well without listening for specific coincidental partials. > > However, one can still benefit from the concept of listening > musically. Just relax and let the "force" guide you. <G> OK, all > kidding aside, if you do relax and listen for the sweet spot, you > will hear it eventually. Assuming you have good lever > technique. You also need to learn how to setthe middle string > slightly above > that sweet spot so that when the otherstrings are tuned to the > middle, the pitch is correct for all three strings sounding > together. (Pitch does change somewhat when unisons are tuned to the > middle string.) > > David Andersen, I'd like to attend the tuning soirée in GR. Would it > be during a normal class time, or after hours? > -- JF > > > >
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