[pianotech] Soundboard Lacquer Finish

PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Fri Mar 20 22:35:22 PDT 2009


Dale:
 
Is it your opinion (and others welcome!) that DAG or other  purported 
friction-reducing finishes on bridge tops are simply traditional?  Is there a real 
argument against them? For them? 
 
Your (and others') natural bridge tops are quite lovely, I have to say, and  
I am tempted.
 
Paul
 
 
In a message dated 3/20/2009 10:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
erwinspiano at aol.com writes:







Awesome Paul
I  get it.
I've used a New Product for me called "Rot Doctor." A two  part epoxy resin 
with natural wood resin as well. I think they call it CPES. I  posted about 
last week. Was using shellac previously sprayed on sanded out  & steel wooled & 
buffed. With this I simply brush it on several times  let dry over night & it 
looks very similar to the shellac only it  penetrates farther & it is harder. 
Interestingly it doesn't' mess with my  bridge pin fit even applied liberally 
which means it is penetrating. It's  a time saver & a better harder outcome. No 
sanding, no notch painting  later. Looks good. I'll repost the picture.
Dale
 
Even though I don't put as much "back" into the finishing, I love to work  
with the board, before and after it's in, trimming it out and getting it ready  
for the next major belly steps. It represents a major achievement in the craft 
 we pursue, and although I do use Andre's and don't make my own boards (at  
least not yet, with space and time issues), handling, fitting, treating, and  
finally seeing the expanse of finely shaped wood in place is still  
breath-taking to me. After 22 years of soundboard installation. Still a  wonder. 
 
Bridge work is right up there, too! I'm considering going to the  untreated 
top surface. Have been using the traditional DAG for years.  What do you do on 
the tops for finish? 
 
Paul 
 
 
In a message dated 3/20/2009 6:59:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_erwinspiano at aol.com_ (mailto:erwinspiano at aol.com)  writes:




Paul
looks like amber  shellac over a very white Engleman board from Bolduc. Nice 
color.  It  appears that Stwy used amber shellac on all their old pre 1950s 
boards.  Why brush on? I spray on one good wet coat as a sealer coat. Let dry 
over  night & then Scuff it, then spray on 2 good coats of sealer, sand  it out 
& then 2 good wet coats of gloss lacquer. Wet sand with  400,600, Then water 
wet steel wool on an flat automotive rub out hand  tool which hold sandpaper & 
steel wool beautifully. Nice straight lines.  It has a handle.
Hand polish with Maguire swirl remover  & a t-shirt cloth folded with no 
seams or creases
It's a  pretty nice look. On the bottom I don't rub out. Let it shine
Dale




Actually, here is a pic of a recent soundboard installation (bridges  not yet 
sealed)...Mason AA...if you look closely, you can see the satin  sheen 
result, and the color is just the way I like it, too.
 
Paul
 

 
 
In a message dated 3/19/2009 10:38:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_bill at a440piano.net_ (mailto:bill at a440piano.net)   writes:




 
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