[pianotech] CA glue vs. PinTite or Garfield's

[John Ross]

I have seen wood that has become 'pulpy' or 'rotted', after having the 
glycerin based product used.
Mind you this was years ago, and had been used by previous tuners.
I think the glycerin, keeps the moisture in the wood, not letting it release 
the moisture, resulting in the rot.
I used to use Pin Tite, but it seemed to be a hit and miss situation.
The article quoted is pre 1999, and would have little relevance in this 
discussion about C/A, which came after that article.
Each to his own, C/A is for me, but obviously not for you.
On a survey, I am sure C/A would win.
C/A has never failed me.
John Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Deutschle" <oaronshoulder at gmail.com>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] CA glue vs. PinTite or Garfield's


Wood releases and absorbs moisture to and from the air with or without
glycerin, but does not rot.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca> wrote:
> If you are treating the block due to lack of funds to repin, then a 
> rethink
> is necessary.
> Glycerin continues to attract moisture.
> That ends up causing the wood to 'rot', then the pinblock has to be
> replaced.
> With the C/A, in theory, you could ream the hole for a bigger pin.
> John Ross,
> Windsor, Nova Scotia.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Deutschle" <oaronshoulder at gmail.com>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] CA glue vs. PinTite or Garfield's
>
>
> I have used CA only once and do not plan on using it again. As Mr.
> Foote mentioned the feel is different between CA treatment and
> Garfield’s. I prefer the Garfield feel. With the CA there was no
> “spring” left in the pin. And with poor rendering due to rust, which
> can be expected on a piano that needs the treatment anyway, I had to
> resort to flagpoling the pins in order to render the strings and the
> result was not as stable as I would have liked. Both types of
> treatment will make a piano tunable, but Garfield’s does not have the
> odor. One change I have made in the application is to rinse the coils
> with denatured alcohol after application to make sure that there is no
> glycerin left to attract moisture and promote rust on the strings.
>
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> Regards,
> Jeff Deutschle
>
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Jeff Deutschle

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