Again I say talk with your congressman to expedite the process caused by custom agents, that's what we pay him or her for with our taxes !!! On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:25 PM, <pianotech-request at ptg.org> wrote: > Send pianotech mailing list submissions to > pianotech at ptg.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pianotech-request at ptg.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pianotech-owner at ptg.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ampico Reproducer (David Ilvedson) > 2. Re: shipping piano overseas with ivory keys (John Ross) > 3. shipping pianos with original ivory keys overseas. (Anne%20Acker) > 4. Upright Dolly Success! (Rob McCall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:04:25 -0800 > From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> > To: pianotech at ptg.org, caut at ptg.org > Subject: [pianotech] Ampico Reproducer > Message-ID: <015BE3820B0412041928010020 at David> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have a client looking for an Ampico Reproducer A...I guess Mason & > Hamlin, Steinway...anyone have something and price... > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, CA 94044 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/74d61e02/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:04:32 -0400 > From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] shipping piano overseas with ivory keys > Message-ID: <92B15A72463D42C790EFD8F2CCA6ADB7 at john1bf82a3fe4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I had a customer once, who, in order to beat the ban on the ivory, had a > lower serial number stenciled on her piano, to make it appear old enough to > be an antique, and therefore beat the ivory ban. > Did I make that all one sentence. :-) > John Ross > Windsor, Nova Scotia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duaine & Laura Hechler" <dahechler at att.net> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: [pianotech] shipping piano overseas with ivory keys > > > David Ilvedson wrote: > > What is situation with ivory keys on an old piano going to a new home > > in New Zealand? > > > > David Ilvedson, RPT > > Pacifica, CA 94044 > I am not really sure - today. > > About a year ago, I had a customer that was moving to Canada. The > shipping and the moving companies told them that the ivory would have to > have stripped off. Move the piano then - replace - the ivory keys - NOT > the ones you just stripped off, but replacement ivory keys gotten from > Canada (or in your case New Zealand.) > > I suppose if you had the guts, to pack the stripped off keys in a > luggage bag and take it with you on the plane. (Oops, did I say that - > (I just slapped myself)) > > A real pain in the ass ! > > Thankfully, her piano had the old Ivorine keys. > > Duaine > > -- > Duaine Hechler > Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ > Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding > Reed Organ Society Member > Florissant, MO 63034 > (314) 838-5587 > dahechler at att.net > www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com > -- > Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:11:22 +0000 (UTC) > From: Anne%20Acker <a.acker at comcast.net> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: [pianotech] shipping pianos with original ivory keys > overseas. > Message-ID: > < > 1289965694.6282991257387082848.JavaMail.root at sz0026a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Alright guys and gals, > > This is an important issue, and one that shouldn't be guessed about over a > pint or around the water cooler. > > Ivory is covered by CITES, and as such its shipment is carefully regulated > whether on the piano or in a box. DON'T try to get away with sneaking it > in. It is a federal offense and not worth it. At best it will all be > confiscated and you may get a whopping fine. Pianos are typically > impounded, and the ivories stripped off and confiscated. To run salt in the > wound they WILL charge you for their time and the storage. > > You CAN ship pianos with ivory keys to a foreign country IF you can prove > the ivory is pre-CITES, i.e. you have an antique piano and document it > properly. Most pianos with ivory keys qualify. > > You need to get special permits both from the exporting country and the > importing country after filling out stacks of forms. It typically takes 6 > months to get an ivory export permit. In the U.S. you contact the U.S. > Fish and Wildlife Service. > > If just type Ivory, export, fish and wildlife...you'll find what you need > to know. > > OR you can make it easy on yourself and hire a proper import/export > expediting agency. You'll be dealing with customs and the like anyway, so > it is a wise decision unless you are experienced and/or willing to wade > through the bureaucracy and paperwork. > > The last antique piano I drove into Canada created a 2" thick stack of > forms that I showed on both sides of the border. I figure it took me about > 3 hrs. of my time to do all the work. It took only 4 months for the permit, > but I have a business license to import and export ivory, so that sped it up > a bit. > > Oh, and to make it more complicated, you can only bring ivory in and out of > the United States through a few ports. Go to an un-authorized port and you > will NOT get it through. > > So, tread lightly and do your homework before shipping. > > or, gag, you could replace the keytops with plastic...more gagging... once > you've had ivory, plastic is like switching from driving a Jag to a Kia. > > AA > > Anne Acker > Historic Keyboard Specialist > > http://www.anneackerkeyboards.com > http://pianogrands.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:25:44 -0800 > From: Rob McCall <rob at mccallpiano.com> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: [pianotech] Upright Dolly Success! > Message-ID: <16E3E15A-9032-4EBE-99B0-F0415027BD2D at mccallpiano.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > Greetings List, > > First of all I wanted to say thank you to every one who chimed in and > offered their collective insight on how to properly install a set of > dollies for an upright. I learned quite a bit in the last few days, > which made my job today a breeze! > > An extra big thanks go to Isaac Sadigursky, who phoned me at home last > evening and gave me tremendous insight into how to get the job done > quickly and safely. He patiently answered all my questions for 20 > minutes and helped me gather all the right tools for the job. Thanks, > Isaac!! > > Secondly, Jim McCormac emailed me and offered me the use of his > tilter. I'm sorry we weren't able to connect in time, but the offer > was more than generous. Thanks, Jim! > > So here's what I did. I took all my power tools, different sized > bolts, lag screws, etc. and put them all in a backpack. This made it a > lot easier to transport across the campus to the band room. > > The Yamaha P22 was on short carpeting already, but I still used an > additional blanket to cushion the piano. Without a tilter (this > time!), I enlisted the aid of a couple of 8th grade boys, Matt and > Andy, that volunteered to help. With their help we gently lowered the > piano on to its side. The boys helped me hold up the dollies so I > could mark where the screws needed to go. I then pre-drilled a 7/32's > hole for the 5/16" x 1-1/2" lag screws that I used on the back side. > On the underside a 1/4" x 1-1/2" hex head machine thread bolt was used > along with a large fender washer to disperse the load, a lock washer, > and a nut. > > Due to the location of the holes and the depth of the bottom board and > bottom back frame, I was only able to put in two lag screws on the > back and two bolts on the bottom of each dolly. Nothing impinges or > interferes with the pedal actions. Also, the rear two holes on the > bottom of the dolly lined up exactly with the soundboard. I > definitely did not want to drill through the side of that! I also > removed the remaining casters from the piano. Two were already > missing. Luckily, the piano had no other damage. > > So, here's some photos to laugh at... er... to criticize.... uh... I > mean, to peruse. > > By the way, total time from start to finish was 35 minutes! > > Thanks again! > > Rob McCall > McCall Piano Service, LLC > Murrieta, CA > > rob at mccallpiano.com > www.mccallpiano.com > 951-698-1875 > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0656.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 42403 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/b1f0eee6/attachment.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0657.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 44596 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/b1f0eee6/attachment-0001.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0658.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 46082 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/b1f0eee6/attachment-0002.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0659.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 52479 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/b1f0eee6/attachment-0003.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0660.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 45250 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/b1f0eee6/attachment-0004.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0661.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 47516 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091104/b1f0eee6/attachment-0005.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech mailing list > pianotech at ptg.org > http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech > > > End of pianotech Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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