[pianotech] Whitening yellowed ivories

Scott Helms, RPT tuner at helmsmusic.net
Sat Nov 7 20:27:23 MST 2009


Hmmm, that sounds pretty drastic to me ... I remember one article I read
that suggested using some kind of nut to rub the ivories? Sounds crazy,
but if it works, it works. Do I also remember somebody suggesting oxalic
acid? eek!

Scott
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> I placed a post earlier this week with a similar question and got no
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> I wondered about the Klaviermacher video in which he sanded the ivories a
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> reat deal.  I wondered if this would produce the expected feel of real
> ivor=
> y keys?  If you sand off all of the ridges of natural ivory to produce a
> ve=
> ry smooth surface and albeit white will the pianist appreciate the tactile
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> feel of this or could it ruin what a performer wants to feel?
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> Just curious and being careful before doing anything dramatic.
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> Thanks=2C
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> Steven Hopp
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> From: imatunr at srvinet.com
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> Date: Sat=2C 7 Nov 2009 18:09:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Whitening yellowed ivories
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> Wim=2C Scott has sunny days 360 of the year <G> Arizona
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> Scott
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> Put them under a blacklight overnight. It will take some of the yellow
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> =2C but they will not look white because the stain is probably too deep in
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> the pores of the ivory. =20
> If you know you're going to have sunny days=2C you can put them outside in
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> the sun for several hours at a time.=20
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> Wim
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> From: Scott Helms=2C RPT <tuner at helmsmusic.net>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Sat=2C Nov 7=2C 2009 2:35 pm
> Subject: [pianotech] Whitening yellowed ivories
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> I know I have read articles somewhere about different ways to "bleach" or
> whiten yellowed ivory keytops=2C but I can't seem to find them. Does
> anybod=
> y
> have any good tips for how to accomplish this? The piano is extremely old
> and was in a smoker's home for many=2C many years. I'd also welcome advice
> on what pitfalls to avoid in doing this job. Thanks in advance!
>
> Scott
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> Scott A. Helms=2C Registered Piano Technician
> 480-818-3871
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> I placed a post earlier this week with a similar question and got no
> reply.=
> &nbsp=3B We're busy I know.<BR>
> &nbsp=3B<BR>
> I wondered about the Klaviermacher video in which he sanded the ivories a
> g=
> reat deal.&nbsp=3B I wondered&nbsp=3Bif this would produce the expected
> fee=
> l of real ivory keys?&nbsp=3B If you sand off all of the ridges of natural
> =
> ivory to produce a very smooth surface and albeit white will the pianist
> ap=
> preciate the tactile feel of this or could it ruin what a performer wants
> t=
> o feel?<BR>
> &nbsp=3B<BR>
> Just curious and being careful before doing anything dramatic.<BR>
> &nbsp=3B<BR>
> Thanks=2C<BR>
> &nbsp=3B<BR>
> Steven Hopp<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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> From: imatunr at srvinet.com<BR>To: pianotech at ptg.org<BR>Date: Sat=2C 7 Nov
> 20=
> 09 18:09:12 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Whitening yellowed
> ivories<BR=
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Wim=2C Scott has sunny days 360 of the
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> <DIV>Put them under a blacklight overnight. It will&nbsp=3Btake some of
> the=
>  yellow out=2C&nbsp=3Bbut they will not look white because&nbsp=3Bthe
> stain=
> &nbsp=3Bis probably too deep in the pores of the ivory. &nbsp=3B<BR>If you
> =
> know you're going to have sunny days=2C you can put them outside in the
> sun=
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> kn=
> ow I have read articles somewhere about different ways to "bleach" or
> whiten yellowed ivory keytops=2C but I can't seem to find them. Does
> anybod=
> y
> have any good tips for how to accomplish this? The piano is extremely old
> and was in a smoker's home for many=2C many years. I'd also welcome advice
> on what pitfalls to avoid in doing this job. Thanks in advance!
>
> Scott
> ------
> Scott A. Helms=2C Registered Piano Technician
> 480-818-3871
> <A href=3D"http://www.helmsmusic.net/">www.helmsmusic.net</A>
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