[pianotech] pianotech Digest, Vol 11, Issue 192

Joe Goss imatunr at srvinet.com
Tue Sep 22 13:18:32 MDT 2009


Marshall,
Welcome back.
Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT
imatunr at srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marshall Gisondi 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] pianotech Digest, Vol 11, Issue 192


  I wonder if they used plate bushings. Although too long of pins will flag pole.

  Marshall Gisondi Piano Technician
  Marshall's Piano Service
  pianotune05 at hotmail.com
  215-510-9400
  Graduate of The School of Piano Technology for the Blind www.pianotuningschool.org Vancouver, WA





   
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  Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 11, Issue 192
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:38:47 -0600


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  From: paul at pmpiano.com
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:03:42 -0400
  Subject: [pianotech] Tuning Pin Replacement AFTER CA Glue








  I would appreciate any advice anyone might be able to offer me regarding replacing the tuning pins in a 1961 Baldwin L with, I believe, a replacement pinblock that was subsequently treated with CA glue.  Will the old CA glue cause any problems when pounding in new pins.  I think one size larger would yield adequate torque.



  The piano is in a school, and was “rebuilt” at some point in the past.  It has “new-ish” hammers, shanks, flanges, a shimmed and refinished soundboard, possibly recapped bridge, new-ish bass strings (still shiny).  Fundamentally a nice piano.  It appears a new block was installed, and the piano definitely has been restrung.  Unfortunately, the tuning pins were left waaaaay too far out of the block, and most are flagpoling.  Some sections were pounded down (later, I assume, by someone else?), but must be this failed to provide adequate torque, so CA glue was used on some pins (visual evidence, feel).



  Excessive dryness from HVAC has been a chronic problem in this facility since it opened in 1961.  I have a new Life Saver System I will be installing.



  Why re-pin?  Because I’m not a fan of pinblock restorer or CA glue.  So to get the torque up I am thinking of trying a full re-pinning.  There’s no money for another rebuild or move to shop, so I am trying to make this piano serviceable where it is in the band and small group rehearsal room (currently in use there).  With tuning stability, it’s parts indicate it could be well-regulated and voiced, becoming a very clean, respectable rehearsal room piano (6’1”).



  Thanks for the help.



  Paul

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  Paul Milesi

  Registered Piano Technician (RPT)

  Piano Technicians Guild

  (202) 667-3136

  (202) 246-3136 Cell

  E-mail:  paul at pmpiano.com

  Website:  http://www.pmpiano.com



  Address:

  3000 7th Street NE, Apt. 204

  Washington, DC 20017-1402







  --Forwarded Message Attachment--
  From: robertemmett.w at gmail.com
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:27:10 -0500
  Subject: [pianotech] High pitch

  The highest I found was a woman that kept on her damp chaser heating elemnet only,never had it served untill the daughter was going to sell it after 30 some odd years. The accrosonic was believe it or not 2 and a half notes sharp according to my accutuner and tuning fork,must have gone over it at least 4 times! Robert Wall


  --Forwarded Message Attachment--
  From: gnewell at ameritech.net
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:17:27 -0400
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning Pin Replacement AFTER CA Glue



















  New block. Then forgetaboutit.












  Greg Newell




  Greg's Piano Forté




  www.gregspianoforte.com




  216-226-3791 (office)




  216-470-8634 (mobile)


















  From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org
  [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul Milesi

  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:04 PM

  To: PTG Pianotech List

  Subject: [pianotech] Tuning Pin Replacement AFTER CA Glue















  I would appreciate any advice anyone might
  be able to offer me regarding replacing the tuning pins in a 1961 Baldwin L
  with, I believe, a replacement pinblock that was subsequently treated with CA
  glue.  Will the old CA glue cause any problems when pounding in new pins.
   I think one size larger would yield adequate torque.



  The piano is in a school, and was “rebuilt” at some point in the
  past.  It has “new-ish” hammers, shanks, flanges, a shimmed
  and refinished soundboard, possibly recapped bridge, new-ish bass strings
  (still shiny).  Fundamentally a nice piano.  It appears a new block
  was installed, and the piano definitely has been restrung.  Unfortunately,
  the tuning pins were left waaaaay too far out of the block, and most are
  flagpoling.  Some sections were pounded down (later, I assume, by someone
  else?), but must be this failed to provide adequate torque, so CA glue was used
  on some pins (visual evidence, feel).



  Excessive dryness from HVAC has been a chronic problem in this facility since
  it opened in 1961.  I have a new Life Saver System I will be installing.



  Why re-pin?  Because I’m not a fan of pinblock restorer or CA glue.
   So to get the torque up I am thinking of trying a full re-pinning.
   There’s no money for another rebuild or move to shop, so I am
  trying to make this piano serviceable where it is in the band and small group
  rehearsal room (currently in use there).  With tuning stability,
  it’s parts indicate it could be well-regulated and voiced, becoming a
  very clean, respectable rehearsal room piano (6’1”).



  Thanks for the help.



  Paul

  -- 

  Paul Milesi

  Registered Piano Technician (RPT)

  Piano Technicians Guild

  (202) 667-3136

  (202) 246-3136 Cell

  E-mail:  paul at pmpiano.com

  Website:  http://www.pmpiano.com



  Address:

  3000 7th Street NE, Apt. 204

  Washington, DC 20017-1402











  --Forwarded Message Attachment--
  From: wimblees at aol.com
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:38:25 -0400
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] use of cell phones



  -----Original Message-----

  From: David Skolnik <davidskolnik at optonline.net>

  To: pianotech at ptg.org

  Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 3:22 am

  Subject: Re: [pianotech] use of cell phones






  Wim - 

  Which pocket? 

   

  David Skolnik 

  Hastings on Hudson, NY 











  Usually my left pants pocket. 









  Wim 

   

  At 03:51 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: 

  >As I have reported earlier, my sister is a >health nut, and does a lot of research on >environmentally safe products. Here is what she >found about the use of cell phones. 

  >My business line is my cell phone. A number of >states now ban the use of cell phones while >driving, including Hawaii, so I had to get a >blue tooth. But instead of hanging on my ear all >the time, it hangs on my light switch, and I put >it on my when the phone rings. W
  hen I get out of >the car, I turn off the blue tooth, and carry the phone in my pocket. 

  > 

  >Wim 

  > 

  > 

  >CELL PHONE RADIATION: Four billion people around >the globe own cell phones. As the market for new >devices has grown, so have concerns about the safety of cell phone radiation. 

  > 

  >Recent studies find significantly higher risks >for brain and salivary gland tumors among people >using cell phones for 10 years or longer. The >state of the science is provocative and >troubling, and much more research is essential. 

  > 

  >The U.S. government ought to require cell phone >companies to label their products’ radiation >output so that consumers can do the numbers at the point of sale. 

  >It doesn’t, so Environmental Working Group has >created a user-friendly interactive online guide to cell phone emissions. 

  > 

  >10 Best Phones 

  >Listing is based on phones currently available from major carriers.& 

  > 

  >nbsp; 

  > 

  >1. Samsung Impression (SGH-a877) [AT&T] 

  >2. Motorola RAZR V8 [CellularONE] 

  >3. Samsung SGH-t229 [T-Mobile] 

  > 

  >4. Samsung Rugby (SGH-a837) [AT&T] 

  >5. Samsung Propel Pro (SGH-i627) [AT&T] 

  >6. Samsung Gravity (SGH-t459) [CellularONE, T-Mobile] 

  > 

  >7. T-Mobile Sidekick [T-Mobile] 

  >8. LG Xenon (GR500) [AT&T] 

  >9
  . Motorola Karma QA1 [AT&T] 

  >10. Sanyo Katana II [Kajeet] 

  > 

  >••••• What you can do: In any case any case, >limit your use of cell phones. Children should >be especially restricted in using cell phones >and warned of the hazards, just as they grow up >knowing the dangers of driving without a seat belt. 

  > 

   






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