[pianotech] Pitch raising/tuning

[pgmilkie at juno.com]

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Gerald Groot" <tunerboy3 at comcast.net>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pitch raising/tuning
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:16:35 -0400

Thanks and you're right William.  Quality will not come from speed.  Speed
comes from speed and practice. Lots and lots of practice.  Eventually
though, we can learn to put a certain level of quality into speed at the
same time so our pitch raises are not quite so ratty sounding as when we
first started.  Quality must be learned and is extremely important.  As one
of the other posters, David I believe, said in so many words, whatever we
do, what matters most is what the piano sounds like when we're done. 

My main point I guess, for the slower tuning folks, is to get the piano up
to pitch first and increase your pitch raising speed.  Then, work on the
fine tuning.  

I'm leaving sometime today for a week's vacation.  If I don't reply to
anyone, it's cause "I ain't here!"  Enjoy the weekend and week everyone.

Jer

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Piano Boutique
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:04 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pitch raising/tuning

Jer,

With quality comes speed, but quality will not come from speed.

Did I say that right,  any way, I agree with you.

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Groot" <tunerboy3 at comcast.net>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:23 PM
Subject: [pianotech] Pitch raising/tuning


What is Steve Fairchilds pitch raising record?  Isn't it 4 minutes?   Harry
Buyce made the Guiness Book of World Records with a tuning and pitch raise
of I believe, it was 20 minutes?  Wasn't Steve's pitch raise and tuning
something like 13 minutes after that?

As for pitch raising and speed for Terry...  Practice makes perfect.  For
me, having mentor's who were factory trained, (Harry Buyce and Jerry
Peterson were both trained at the South Haven Evertt Piano Factory) to work
with most certainly helped me to learn speed.  Harry used to tell me he
would tune between 18 & 24 pianos from scratch at the factory bringing them
up to pitch BY EAR per day!  Anyone that still remembers Harry, knows full
well he was one of the fastest tuners around and he was good.  My dad was
another fast tuner.

If we try to strive and work on perfection during a pitch raise our speed
will be drastically reduced.  We first need to focus strictly on pitch
raising ONLY until our speed is increased to a satisfactory level.  Once we
have our speed down pat, we can then begin to focus speed and accuracy at
the same time.  This will bring your speed and over all tuning time down
considerably.

Timing yourself is important.

Jer

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:46 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Raising rates in recession

Gerald Groot wrote:
> Alright Ron, stop being the smart ass that you usually are.  It's tiring.
> Just because you don't know me and just because YOU can't do it
> yourself.....
>
> So, You want proof that I can raise pitch on a piano 1/2 tone and tune it
in
> 30 minutes?

No, I asked for five minutes for a 50&#65533; pitch raise
demonstration. You've wasted twenty times more than that of
your valuable time on this already.

Did you happen to demonstrate the five minute pitch raise at
the convention last year? I'm sorry I missed it. It would have
been an interesting class.
Ron N
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