So if I have a "right" to fish, they can't make me buy a license for that privilege? dp David M. Porritt, RPT dporritt at smu.edu From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Anderson Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:54 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Probelm with Business License. Please help! Business licenses are revenue items that were dealt a rather severe blow by the Supreme Court. No government entity can take a "right" and turn it into a "licensable privilege". Cite the case in court and you will get a rapid dismissal "with prejudice". It comes down to neighborhood politics. Keep your neighbors happy and the self-important bureaucrats can go on their happy ignorant way. I operate a piano store and piano teaching studio out of my home in a city. Andrew Anderson On Jul 15, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Paul T Williams wrote: David, I was always curious that if we are licensed in the city in which we live as well as the state, do we also have to have a license for all the surrounding cities in which we work? (It doesn't matter now, since I'm a CAUT), but I didn't ever know if I was bending some sort of law living in Clinton, WA, but doing business all around Puget Sound. Best, Paul From: "David Stocker" <firtreepiano at hotmail.com<mailto:firtreepiano at hotmail.com>> To: <pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>> Date: 07/15/2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [pianotech] Probelm with Business License. Please help! ________________________________ A huge problem for us is that the laws and codes are written by people who are educated into thinking commercial can only mean retail stores or industrial businesses. Our kind of business does not exist in their perception of the universe. The city I grew up in and started my business in made it literally impossible for me to remain, thereby losing my taxes. The county here classifies me the same as a piano teacher; which means if I have no sign, no employees and do nothing outside, they don't care. In Washington state there is no licensing of businesses by the county, only by the state and cities. A business license is not the same as an occupation permit. You might ask about the procedure for re-zoning your property. Sometimes it is not as onerous as you might think, and you may be presenting your cause to a committee of citizens rather than bureaucrats. David Stocker, RPT Tumwater, WA From: Hy Cohen<mailto:frowninverter at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 02:47 To: pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> Subject: [pianotech] Probelm with Business License. Please help! Hi everyone, I just moved here to California a couple of weeks ago, and am working on getting my business plan assembled so I can soon start my piano tech business. As part of that process, I gave a call over to my county to find out how much a business license would be (I live outside the city limits). They told me $415. But then they asked where I would be operating my business, so I explained to them that it would be a home-based business where I will perform a majority of my services at my clients' location and that once in a while I would take a part home to work on using manual hand tools which are pretty quiet, and that my business would not generate any additional traffic, etc. She then asked me for my address, so I gave it to her. Just as soon as I gave her my address she announced that I could not run my business where I live! She said the property is zoned as agriculture, and because I would occasionally bring something home with me to work on that it would be considered a commercial operation which would not be allowed under the property's zoning. Any thoughts...besides moving or pretending I didn't hear what the lady said? <grin> I've left messages for the city to find out if I lived there if I would run into the same problem, but they haven't called back. In your experience, am I likely to run into this problem living in a city? We are planning to move into a city in the near future. But with this goofy problem, we might be moving sooner rather than later. <grin> Thanks for your advice! Warmly, Hy frowninverter at gmail.com<mailto:frowninverter at gmail.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100715/985db5a2/attachment.htm>
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