[pianotech] re.:Bladeless fan

Shawn Hansen kayceemusic at gmail.com
Mon Jun 21 07:01:51 MDT 2010


The organ statement has me interested.
I have experienced standing waves in this way.  Moving through a space with
a stagnant/constant sound source will give you the pleasure of hearing
certain partials as being louder in specific locations in the room.  If you
move through the space you are essentially animating this effect.  Sine
waves, which have no partials, will do the same thing, but that the sound
will disappear in certain places in the room, so when moving through the
space it will sound like beating.

Doesn't doppler reference a change in frequency?  Wether it is light or
sound or some other set of frequencies?  When I turn fans off when tuning I
certainly do it because I hear "beats".   But now I am curious if the sound
waves are actually being distorted in the way that would compress and or
expand the wave's structure resulting in a frequency change.  So what we
hear are perhaps not only amplitude changes based on the periodic reflection
of sound, but ALSO a vibrato or pitch change because the reflecting surface
is moving.

hmmm
Shawn

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net> wrote:

> Don Mannino wrote:
>
>> Well, I'll take "Doppler shift of echoes" but not "from echoes."  But
>> you're
>> right, it's nit-picking.
>>
>
> You're right, "of" echoes. Hearing the source against the shifted echo
> makes beats. Way back when, I noticed the same thing using a wedged down
> organ key as a pitch source to tune the piano in a church. Walking back to
> the piano, the organ tone beat at varying rates depending on how fast I
> moved. I found that walking around outside with an Accu-Fork, I could hear
> beats as I approached solid objects. Echolocation! I thought it was pretty
> cool.
> Ron N
>



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Shawn Hansen RPT
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