[pianotech] price for fallboard decal

[Noah Frere]

thanks!

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:50 AM, William Monroe <bill at a440piano.net> wrote:

> Noah,
>
> As others have said, if it's a brass onlay "decal," you probably want to
> do whatever you can to preserve it.  The brass decal is placed on the
> fallboard prior to building up the finish, and the finish has to be built
> up even with the brass (usually a coat or two above that) to get it smooth.
>  If you pull it out, you'll be left with an imprint of the decal, into
> which it is virtually impossible to fit and finish a new one.
>
> There are options:
> 1.  Polish the decal periodically at tuning visits.
> 2.  Polish the decal, top coat with clear lacquer, rub out the finish as
> desired (unless it's a high polish, then I would stick with 1).
> 3.  Strip the fallboard and replace the brass, building up the finish as
> well (lots of work).
> 4.  Remove the brass decal, build up the remaining pockets and smooth the
> fallboard, apply a dry transfer decal, top coat to protect and rub out
> (again, if it is high polish, it's a different game).
>
> Best of luck,
> William R. Monroe
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Noah Frere <noahfrere at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I unfortunately didn't take as careful note of the letters as I should
>> have. Thanks though,
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Paul McCloud <pmc033 at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Noah:
>>> Are the letters under the finish, or do the letters protrude and are
>>> exposed?  Most imports have exposed letters, but there are some embedded
>>> under the finish.  The finish was supposed to protect the letters from
>>> tarnishing, but they will eventually do so, and there's nothing you can do
>>> except to strip and refinish.  Except that they are usually polyester
>>> finishes and can't be easily stripped.  If they are exposed, then just use
>>> brass polish as David says.
>>> Paul McCloud
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Noah Frere" <noahfrere at gmail.com>
>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 7:17:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] price for fallboard decal
>>>
>>> in retrospect it probably is tarnish. thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:10 AM, David Nereson < da88ve at gmail.com >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Noah Frere < noahfrere at gmail.com >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just throwing this out there before I call specific companies. Just
>>> looking for a ballpark figure: how much to put in a new metal Schimmel
>>> decal on a grand fallboard. The old one is rusty, and it must be done to a
>>> high standard.
>>>
>>> Ballpark figure is fine,
>>>
>>> I've no idea, but if it's metal, it's not a decal. Decals are usually of
>>> two types: the model airplane type that you soak in water, then slide off
>>> onto the model, and the piano type which is "glued" on with the wet lacquer
>>> or varnish, then the paper backing is soaked off, and more finish is
>>> applied to the decal.
>>> I've never heard of inlaid brass letters becoming "rusty." Are you sure
>>> it's not just tarnish? I would try Brasso applied with a Q-tip, or maybe a
>>> Scotch-brite pad or fine steel wool rubbed on the letters with the end of a
>>> hammer shank.
>>> But if they're actually rusty and need to be replaced, that's
>>> specialized inlay work. I would call Schimmel.
>>> --David Nereson, RPT
>>>
>>>
>>
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