[pianotech] old list/new site

[ed440 at mindspring.com]

David and Floyd-

These are good criticisms, and I've forwarded them to Phil with some 
suggestions.

Decades ago I learned that when you're hard at work back stage to put 
on the show, you can be very surprised to learn what the audience sees!

Thank you!

Ed Sutton

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 14, 2011 10:47 PM
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] old list/new site
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>Last September I went to Italy to lecture at the AIARP convention.  I've
>written a synopsis about it which may appear in a future journal to be
>decided.  I wanted to comment that when I was there I was surprised to hear
>about how many Italian technicians read the list as a source of information
>which is otherwise not readily available to them for various reasons which I
>won't go into now.  I think of people like John Delacour, with whom I've
>sometimes disagreed, but who in the past has added an interesting line of
>discussion and knowledge on various topics.  Or people like Ron Overs, Andre
>Oorebeek and others who will have a much more difficult time both reading
>and participating in the list should it switch exclusively to the new format
>and others of whom we will likely never know.  I'm disappointed by that and
>I think there is some shortsightedness in terms of the overall impact of the
>list serve and the format which provides ease of accessibility to a
>worldwide audience.  While certainly not the only source of information and
>knowledge it does, in my view, function to move the trade forward in its own
>way.  
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>Recently I finished reading the biography of Steve Jobs and one couldn't
>help but be impressed with his consistency and single minded vision to
>friendly user interface and ease of accessibility.  I don't have to think
>too hard about what he would say about the new format and, honestly, I would
>have to concur.   If it takes more than two clicks it's.well I don't need to
>substitute his colorful language here but I think you get the point.  
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>David Love
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>www.davidlovepianos.com
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>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
>Of Floyd Gadd
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:32 PM
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] old list/new site
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>Thanks Ed,
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>I am a PTG member, I do read both lists, but the new one less often,
>primarily because I find the degree of latency in navigating through the new
>site frustrating.  I've always assumed that participation was open to
>non-PTG members, until I decided to see what would happen if I approached
>the site as if I were not a member.  I ended up at the "Join the PTG
>community" page, it was not completely clear to me, from the content of the
>page, that this was not the beginning of an application process for
>associate membership.  Thus my question below.
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>Floyd
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>Quote:
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>Dear Floyd, Non-members may participate in the new Web Site, as was
>mentioned on this list very recently. Check the archives for instructions.
>You will find many excellent piano technicians participating in the new
>communications technology. Phil Bondi has just posted a very candid report
>about his experiences at the HL users conference, worth reading if you want
>to learn about where the site development is going. When I first read the
>pianotech list, I had to go to the library and have the librarian log me on.
>I did not know how to use email. I learned, and am now learning to use the
>new media site. I find it faster to read than this list. I recommend
>learning. Please sign on. Best, Ed Sutton -----Original Message----- >From:
>Floyd Gadd  >Sent: Dec 14, 2011 2:04 AM >To: pianotech at ptg.org >Subject:
>Re: [pianotech] old list > >I too prefer the old list. I read it via the
>archives, and it is much faster to access. I agree that is it is less
>fragmented. Can non-PTG members participate in the new list, or only read
>it? I appreciate the breadth of the user base on this list. >Floyd Gadd
>>Manitoba Chapter 
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