[pianotech] Off List - Re: Hmmm?

[Israel Stein]

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:53:48 -0800 
"David Love" 
<davidlovepianos at comcast.net>  wrote:
>
> I still do consider the list an 
> important part of the PTG and not a 
> group who has simply developed an 
> inflated sense of self importance.  
> Comments were made about teachers at 
> conventions not necessarily being 
> participants in the list but when I 
> look at Westpac1, just off the top of 
> my head, Del Fandrich, Dale Erwin, 
> Mike Morvan, Horace Greeley, Nick 
> Gravagne, and Israel Stein (no less) 
> are all frequent participants on the 
> list.  At national conventions there 
> are many others.  Obviously some 
> teachers don't participate but many do 
> and I think the list serves as an 
> important barometer for what people 
> are talking about and are interested 
> in.  I think it is likely that the 
> Designer's Showcase would not have 
> happened were it not for the 
> discussions on soundboard design that 
> had taken place there over those 
> preceding years.  So I do hope that 
> people stay with it and make the 
> necessary adjustments.  I would also 
> be pleased to see some acknowledgment 
> by those who have disparaged the group 
> based on the practices of a few that 
> the list has real value.  For me 
> personally it is probably the most 
> important service that the PTG offers.
>
David,

As the new system becomes more familiar 
to the users, all the functions of the 
old lists will be duplicated (as well as 
some of the problems). The bottom line 
is that those lists have gotten too big 
for the PTG's resources to manage. Did 
you read how much work has to be put 
into keeping the spam off the lists 
while letting legitimate messages 
through? I suppose the filters could be 
turned off, and then you will see how 
much crap the moderators/monitors have 
to weed through in order to find the 
legitimate messages that have been 
caught by the filters either because the 
authors did something stupid or some if 
the words used are on the watch list for 
spam. I suspect all the available 
volunteers have been burned through... 
Alternately, they could leave the 
filters on and not do the monitoring - 
and then you will never know whether 
your message will or will not be caught 
by the filters. Unless, of course, you 
are volunteering to do some of that 
monitoring work - i wonder how long you 
will last... I suppose we could hire 
someone to do it - but that would 
require a dues hike, our staff is 
working at its limit right now...

In any case, those lists will shrink as 
people move to the new system and 
abandon them, and will not be able to 
fulfill those functions any more. In the 
final analysis, they were unsustainable 
in their bloated form - and you will see 
that ways will be found to do everything 
that they did, and a lot more. Just sit 
back and let it happen.

Israel Stein

> David Love
>
> www.davidlovepianos.com
>

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