Its nice when its both Musical and sentimental Dale Erwin RPT- Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos Pre-hung Ronsen hammer sets/Abel parts Sitka Soundboards & Supplies WWW.Erwinspiano.com 209-577-8397 -----Original Message----- From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 4:44 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] Christman Grand Actually my approach is simpler. If it’s a family heirloom and has sentimental value to them and they want to pass it down through the generations then it might be worth doing. Otherwise, it probably isn’t. While the piano given the right treatment would, I’m sure, have some good musical quality, I would have a hard time arguing for doing the job only with the promise of musical quality. It’s the sad reality. Of course if they wanted to give it to me to play with I’d probably get to it eventually. Right behind the Knabes and Chickerings that are sitting in the shop waiting to be done as well. My typo in the subject line, btw, it should have been “Christman”. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:29 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand I think value needs to be ascribed to this kind of project in a new way. Musical. In our shop, even M Steinways aren't money makers as a spec project anymore. If I get one for free it still a 30 K rebuild when all is replaced and refinished. Whats it worth? Tried selling one lately? At some point nothing is worth rebuilding if you can buy a 6 ft Wendel & Lung etc. from China for 10 K. So the sales pitch needs to be based on the outcome, inherent original quality and the final tonal result of a custom rebuilt made and rebuilt in America(n) piano. Dale Erwin RPT- Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos Pre-hung Ronsen hammer sets/Abel parts Sitka Soundboards & Supplies WWW.Erwinspiano.com 209-577-8397 -----Original Message----- From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 7:17 am Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand Yes it is interesting how things get abandoned and lost probably for the sake of manufacturing expediency. These types of bridges are clearly more trouble to make but probably with some real benefit. Here's a couple final pictures. The treble backscale is quite long without the tuned rear duplex aliquots and you can better see the angle in the capo section. I'd probably reduce the felt width and density behind the counterbearing bars to reduce drag there. Anyway, a potential project in the making. We'll see what happens. A piano where the value doesn't really justify the cost of redoing it but it may have the inherent design and structure to be quite a nice small piano (good set of ivory on it too!). A family heirloom so there's a chance. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:48 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand On 4/22/2012 11:27 PM, David Love wrote: > Here's a couple more pictures showing that the tenor aggraffe line has > already been slightly offset Very good! No tuned low angle duplex either. Can't tell how steep the angle is or how much pressure and drag the big felt acreage provides. >and a better picture of the entire length of > the backscale. Even some of those European loops would probably help back > there. Surely. It's terrific how much individuals have learned and implemented through the history of this industry, and sad how very little of the good stuff has survived in current production and general knowledge. But that's not just this industry either, is it. Good find. Ron N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120423/0438bd85/attachment.htm>
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