[pianotech] BBB

[Paul T Williams]

That's fine, Del

I didn't get into that either. (C of C). Maybe it was only the c of c that 
had business meetings and such. Not sure.  I just didn't have any interest 
when finding out of the huge yearly dues.  I get enough of that here!  I 
also didn't really see how to better my business joining anything like 
that. 
 Maybe there is...??

Any of ya'll get into Kiwanis, Rotery, Mason's, etc?...Just curious. My 
Dad is a 70 year-plus member of Kiwanis,(nearing 90. I hope he makes it!) 
but I've never really wanted to join in.  I thought of the masons, so I 
can find out where the national treasure is, but I think, I'd be sadly 
mistaken..! 

My Dad is an Eagle Scout, too, but I just didn't get into the Boy Scouts, 
either.  I wish i did this though!  Too late! 

I admire those groups, so please don't get me wrong!  They are GREAT 
organizations with great intent.  They do fantastic adventures and help 
millions of people.....I just haven't joined one.  I'm leaning toward the 
masons as there are many faculty here in our school of music and, for 
that, it might help me in some ways.  I just don't know.

As far as PTG;  Let's keep this thing going as far as we can go!  I'm in 
it; are you?

Good luck to y'all.

Paul
 





From:
"Delwin D Fandrich" <del at fandrichpiano.com>
To:
<pianotech at ptg.org>
Date:
02/06/2012 04:23 PM
Subject:
Re: [pianotech] BBB



Are you sure you’re not confusing the BBB with the Chamber of Commerce? 
Years back, when we looked into the BBB—and we were members for a brief 
while—there were no monthly meetings involved. There were with the CC. 
 
Frankly, I don’t see either as being of much use to the self-employed 
piano technician. The BBB purports to be something of a quality and ethics 
watchdog over its membership. In practice—at least in my experience—as 
long as a member paid his dues regularly no amount of customer complaint 
was going to result in their giving a negative report about a member. 
 
After watching a couple of members who made it a regular practice to cheat 
their customers continue to receive good reports from the local BBB office 
we decided the BBB was as bad as they were. Overall it was a waste of 
money. To my knowledge we never lost a customer because we were not 
members of the BBB. Nor did we ever gain one because we were. 
 
(In case anyone wondered we didn’t find membership in the Chamber of 
Commerce to be of any benefit either.) 
 
ddf
 
 
Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Design & Fabrication
6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA
Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525
del at fandrichpiano.com — ddfandrich at gmail.com
 
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On 
Behalf Of Paul T Williams
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:08 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] BBB
 
OK.  I'll go first. 

Never done it. 

It's very expensive, and they would like to see you attend monthly 
meetings.  All good if you can schmooz with the local politians and bigger 
businessmen.  Might make you some good customers......"might" is the 
operative unless you schmooz well.  I can see if you have a public shop 
space open to the public with lots of retail people that come and go all 
day with a store person.  Where I was before becoming a CAUT, I was so out 
of the way, nobody would even know how to get there!  My shop was 
elsewhere too. 

I'd like to know what they offer you for the huge price tag? 

I'm sure some of you guys who have storefronts, etc. can help out on this 
too.  I just said "no thank you" in my self employed days.   

Good question, Gary. Just be ready to get political!  If you're good with 
the community, then it might work for you. 

Paul 



From: 
Gary <gmcc at charter.net> 
To: 
pianotech at ptg.org 
Date: 
02/06/2012 03:24 PM 
Subject: 
[pianotech] BBB
 




Just got a call this afternoon for an invitation to join the Better 
Business Bureau.  I'm not sure what the benefit would be, other than 
maybe more
advertising/tax write-off..Any of y'all members?
gary



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