[pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......)

[David Love]

I didn't appreciate being lectured.

 

One thing that can be said for the new format even with all its faults,
added time for the interface to operate apparently seems to discourage this
type of endless back and forth on empty subjects.  Maybe just that little
bit of extra time and effort discourages people from shooting off the first
thing that comes to mind in a fruitless rant.  Might be the best argument
for the new format.   I don't see this type of hyperventilating going on
there.  Maybe I'm just lucky.  Perhaps the more formal structure discourages
"chatting" and all that goes with it.  This list is fast becoming a facebook
wall posting medium and it is, in my view, diminished.  I regret that I may
be contributing to that as I write.  

 

I stayed completely out of the discussion for 95% of it until I just got
sick of hearing all the griping about relatively small issues: a letter
crossing in the ether, an individual's (it does seem like an isolated
incident) difficulty with paying a membership fee, so I finally decided to
say something, in effect, get a life, let's move ahead.  I'm still saying
that and so now will move ahead.  I've input far more into this discussion
than I intended and I apologize for my impatience, irritation, snide
remarks, snippiness and any other disagreeableness.  

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: David Skolnik [mailto:davidskolnik at optonline.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:13 AM
To: davidlovepianos at comcast.net; pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......)

 

At 11:16 AM 2/8/2012, DavidL wrote:



Sometimes people need to be reminded to stop whining and get on with their
lives. I see this as further evidence but thanks.
David Lovewww.davidlovepianos.com(sent from bb)


Davey - One or both of us is not getting the point.  Perhaps it's
'Last-Word'ism, or 'I'll Stop If You Stop'ism, but, without an emoticon,
this is some snide crap.  (See how I up the ante and lower the level of
discourse, all at once?)    "Stop whining"?  Are you talking to me?  Where's
the whine.  I just explained to you why your previous post could be,
intended or not, viewed as provocative.  And what do you do?  You artfully
craft another.  That's fine, but don't pretend that it's others who need a
life if you can't avoid provoking them.  

David Skolnik
Hastings on Hudson, NY




DavidL wrote:



are people's lives that empty that this topic continues in every possible
ridiculous iteration. People should get a life and move on. .... Life is too
short as it is.


At the risk of continuing the offense:
The original complaint was a re-kindled expression of frustration about an
issue that has not entirely disappeared: frustration with aspects HL format
and continued ignorance as to the ultimate (or sooner) disposition of this
list.   I agree that Will's post was, perhaps, a bit premature, but, in his
defense, he had already lost an hour of his time, at least allegedly, to the
errant software, so some slack should have been extended.  Most of what
followed was attacking him or in defense of.  And I would have let it ride,
even though "get a life and move on" can, in fact, be read as provocative,
but, between this and Wim's closing "shut the hell up" (sans :-)) to what
was an otherwise reasonable perspective on organizational procedures, I felt
disinclined to simply walk away.

Both of you had the options of not continuing to read the thread or of not
responding.  You both made valid points, but allowed yourselves to indulge
in 'Zing'ery. That, as much as any flawed thought process of others, is what
tends to perpetuate these things, past the point of enlightenment or fun.  

Let's do better.

David Skolnik
Hastings on Hudson, NY

 

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