On 05/28/2012 01:08 AM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote: > > There you go again - making assumptions - do you know this for a fact ? > > Remember what assume means ?! > > > > > OK, so I don't know for a fact that all symphony and studio tuners use ETD exclusively. There probably are a few > "tooner" who only use an ETD at symphony halls and for studios. But I do know a LOT of studio and symphony tuners (A > lot more than you do), who use an ETD only as a means to get to the end result. > But never mind about who uses them. You said, "B. S. - that is way - at least, one reason - the ETD's were > developed." I'm sorry Duaine, ETD were NOT developed to take the place of aural tuners. As I said before, The only > reason ETD's were developed was to HELP aural tuners. > > Then you asked the question. "so what happens when a person can't, for what ever reason, learn the aural tuning skills > (enough to do a full tuning) - not tune at all." > Yes, that's basically what I, and a lot of other tuners, are telling you. If you can't, for what ever reason, learn > aural tuning skills, then hang it up. You're doing our profession a disservice by claiming you know how to tune a > piano, when all you're doing is looking at a dial to tell when a note is in tune. Checking octaves is not tuning a > piano. Tuning unisons is not tuning a piano. A lot of people who are not piano tuners can tell when an octave or a > unisons is out of tune, and some of them can probably correct them, if need be. I'm not just picking on you, btw. I > would have this same conversation with any "tooner" who only uses an ETD, and refuses to try to learn basic aural > tuning skills. It's just that you're either too pig headed, or arrogant, to understand what we've been trying to tell > you for the past couple of years. > Wim > Be that is it may - or may not - but I can tell you, that I'm certain of, there are more persons tuning with ETD's - ONLY - and growing every year !!!! So take this little story to the bank: Suppose a new tech that wants to tune - and - make a living. He is faced with two options - learning the quickest way, ETD - or the more laborious and most time consuming way, Aural Tuning. And since he has heard that it has been time tested that it is very hard to tell them apart. I will bet the bank, he will take the easy way - the ETD. So you and your "pig headed or arrogant" friends get over this FACT !!!!! -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing& Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler at att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home& Business user of Linux - 11 years
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