Yes they are posting but as for me I can't figure out how to get on and comment...signing in troubles but I can go there and see what others are posting. I need help. My son will likely scold me for being dense later.....oh well. Dale Erwin R.P.T. Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos www.Erwinspiano.com Phone: 209-577-8397 -----Original Message----- From: Terry Beckingham <t46xd8jb at xplornet.com> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>; pianotech <pianotech at googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:03 am Subject: Re: [pianotech] The fate of Pianotech Hi Dale, Is pianotech at googlegroups still up and running? I haven't seen a singlepost from it in several days. I went to the web site and there were norecent posts there either. Your post to Ron came to me only on pianotech, not via google groups. Ishould have received it twice if google groups was up andrunning. Terry Beckingham At 10:32 AM 3/3/2013 -0500, you wrote: HiRon Thank you for your forthright comments. Please except my personalcompassion for the situation with your mom. I went thru this very thinglast year and it is a very difficult and emotional task to handle andthen...... the world keeps on coming at you. Ron, the fact that yousaid"I have pretty well lost my interest in dealingwith PTG" speaksvolumesabout an organization that has lost its way. and this..... " Onceagain, I find the total lack of communication from the Board to beastounding." Do they not understandanything aboutwe thepeople? The people they aresupposed to serve. Are they living in abubble or what? Just so you knowthe majority of Indians have already left the reservation so to speak,and many on the list have gone to google groups and unsubscribed toMyptg.org and this list. So I am cross posting this to them as well @pianotech at googlegroups.com. My thanksto you for helping to provide an amazing on line experience of continuingeducation of incalculable value. The brain trustof the organization and technical expertise and sharing lives onelsewhere to those who wish to be involved.The Bible say that without vision..... the peopleperish. Kindregards and God Bless Dale Dale ErwinR.P.T. Erwin's PianoRestorationInc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S.pianos www.Erwinspiano.com Phone:209-577-8397 -----Original Message----- From: Ron Berry <berrypiano at gmail.com> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:00 pm Subject: [pianotech] The fate of Pianotech to the online PTG people I have been very tied up the past couple of week with my mother in thehospital and moving her to a nursing home. I have to say that I was as surprised as the rest of you about the noticein the PTG newsletter. The text in it made it look like I and the ECC were proposing thatPianotech be closed and that everyone move over to the Google+ community.Once again, I find the total lack of communication from the Board to beastounding. My report suggested leaving the email Pianotech running andstarting an experiment with Google+. Next thing I know it is beingannounced as the new thing and that people should contact me forinstructions. The G+ community has better options than the Google groupand it less likely to get spam since the membership has to be approvedand can be blocked. I called the G+ community Pianotech just to get thatname in case we liked G+. If I had a clue that the Board was going to promote this as thereplacement for Pianotech listserve I would have prepared someinstructions for using Google+. This change could not have occurred at aworse time for me. I also suggested that the ECC committee be eliminatedsince all its past functions are now taken over by staff. I don't haveadmin rights to any of the web sites any more. I have pretty well lost my interest in dealing with PTG, but still lovethe community created by all our online communities. The listserve willprobably be closed, even though there are some functions it provideswhich will be hard to duplicate. I am no fan ofmy.ptg.org and almost never use it. WhenI do, it is through email. It could be OK for some committee work. I dothink G+ works better than my.ptg.org,and I imagine G+ will grow over time at a much faster rate. G+ integrateswith Gmail very well, and that is the way I follow what is going onthere. Also the G+ iPhone app is excellent and easy to use. It is unknownhow long G+ will archive items, and we won't have much control over that.I think it is reasonable to transfer the archives over tomy.ptg.org to integrate them with thatcommunity just to save them. I told the Board when they first werelooking at my.ptg.org that the mostimportant thing was to maintain the Pianotech archives. Here we are,years past that, and they are still in question. I"m still dealing with selling my mom's house and the stuff in it,so I don't have much computer time. I have faith in the community thatcreated Pianotech and know that it will survive. It would be much betterif it could all come together in one place rather than four. I thinkGoogle groups or G+ make sense as the place to have it. The google groupis more like the current listserve and the G+ group offers some newfeatures including Hangouts which are like Skype conference calls. Ileave it to the groups to decide. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ronald Berry Piano Service Indianapolis, IN 317-255-8213 ron at berrypiano.com http://www.berrypiano.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ask me about Healthy Chocolate! http://www.BerryGoodChocolate.com Public Key http://www.berrypiano.com/key/Ron_Berry.txt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130303/b81f64e0/attachment.htm>
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