[pianotech] The fate of Pianotech

[Terry Beckingham]

Hi Dale,

Is pianotech at googlegroups still up and running? I haven't seen a single 
post from it in several days. I went to the web site and there were no 
recent posts there either.

Your post to Ron came to me only on pianotech, not via google groups. I 
should have received it twice if google groups was up and running.

Terry Beckingham

At 10:32 AM 3/3/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Ron
>  Thank you for your forthright comments. Please except my personal 
> compassion for the situation with your mom. I went thru this very thing 
> last year and it is a very difficult and emotional task to handle and 
> then...... the world keeps on coming at you.
>  Ron,  the  fact that you said "I have pretty well lost my interest in 
> dealing with PTG" speaks volumes about an organization that has lost its 
> way. and this .....
>" Once again, I find the total lack of communication from the Board to be 
>astounding."
>Do they not understand anything about we the people? The people they are 
>supposed to serve.
>Are they living in a bubble or what?
>Just so you know the majority of Indians have already left the reservation 
>so to speak, and many on the list have gone to google groups  and 
>unsubscribed to Myptg.org and this list. So I am cross posting this to 
>them as well @ pianotech at googlegroups.com.
>
>  My thanks to you for helping to provide an amazing on line experience of 
> continuing education of incalculable value.
>The brain trust of the organization and technical expertise and sharing 
>lives on elsewhere to those who wish to be
>  involved. The Bible say that without vision..... the people perish.
>  Kind regards and God Bless
>   Dale
>
>Dale Erwin R.P.T.
>Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.
>Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos
>www.Erwinspiano.com
>Phone: 209-577-8397
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Berry <berrypiano at gmail.com>
>To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:00 pm
>Subject: [pianotech] The fate of Pianotech
>
>to the online PTG people
>
>I have been very tied up the past couple of week with my mother in the 
>hospital and moving her
>
>to a nursing home.
>
>I have to say that I was as surprised as the rest of you about the notice 
>in the PTG newsletter.
>
>The text in it made it look like I and the ECC were proposing that 
>Pianotech be closed and that everyone move over to the Google+ community. 
>Once again, I find the total lack of communication from the Board to be 
>astounding. My report suggested leaving the email Pianotech running and 
>starting an experiment with Google+. Next thing I know it is being 
>announced as the new thing and that people should contact me for 
>instructions. The G+ community has better options than the Google group 
>and it less likely to get spam since the membership has to be approved and 
>can be blocked. I called the G+ community Pianotech just to get that name 
>in case we liked G+.
>
>If I had a clue that the Board was going to promote this as the 
>replacement for Pianotech listserve I would have prepared some 
>instructions for using Google+. This change could not have occurred at a 
>worse time for me. I also suggested that the ECC committee be eliminated 
>since all its past functions are now taken over by staff. I don't have 
>admin rights to any of the web sites any more.
>
>I have pretty well lost my interest in dealing with PTG, but still love 
>the community created by all our online communities. The listserve will 
>probably be closed, even though there are some functions it provides which 
>will be hard to duplicate. I am no fan of <http://my.ptg.org>my.ptg.org 
>and almost never use it. When I do, it is through email. It could be OK 
>for some committee work. I do think G+ works better than 
><http://my.ptg.org>my.ptg.org, and I imagine G+ will grow over time at a 
>much faster rate. G+ integrates with Gmail very well, and that is the way 
>I follow what is going on there. Also the G+ iPhone app is excellent and 
>easy to use. It is unknown how long G+ will archive items, and we won't 
>have much control over that. I think it is reasonable to transfer the 
>archives over to <http://my.ptg.org>my.ptg.org to integrate them with that 
>community just to save them. I told the Board when they first were looking 
>at <http://my.ptg.org>my.ptg.org that the most important thing was to 
>maintain the Pianotech archives. Here we are, years past that, and they 
>are still in question.
>
>I"m still dealing with selling my mom's house and the stuff in it, so I 
>don't have much computer time. I have faith in the community that created 
>Pianotech and know that it will survive. It would be much better if it 
>could all come together in one place rather than four. I think Google 
>groups or G+ make sense as the place to have it. The google group is more 
>like the current listserve and the G+ group offers some new features 
>including Hangouts which are like Skype conference calls. I leave it to 
>the groups to decide.
>
>--
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Ronald Berry Piano Service
>Indianapolis, IN
>317-255-8213
><mailto:ron at berrypiano.com>ron at berrypiano.com
>http://www.berrypiano.com
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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