[pianotech] The fate of Pianotech

[Jim Moy]

Dale, see an email I sent to your address, I think I've fixed the situation.

Jim



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Dale Erwin <erwinspiano at aol.com> wrote:

> Yes they are posting but as for me I can't figure out how  to get on and
> comment...signing in troubles
>   but I can go there and see what others are posting. I need help. My son
> will likely scold me for being dense later.....oh well.
>
>
> *Dale Erwin R.P.T.
> Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.
> ** Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos
> www.Erwinspiano.com
> Phone: 209-577-8397
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Beckingham <t46xd8jb at xplornet.com>
> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>; pianotech <pianotech at googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:03 am
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] The fate of Pianotech
>
>  Hi Dale,
>
> Is pianotech at googlegroups still up and running? I haven't seen a single
> post from it in several days. I went to the web site and there were no
> recent posts there either.
>
> Your post to Ron came to me only on pianotech, not via google groups. I
> should have received it twice if google groups was up and running.
>
> Terry Beckingham
>
> At 10:32 AM 3/3/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Hi Ron
>  Thank you for your forthright comments. Please except my personal
> compassion for the situation with your mom. I went thru this very thing
> last year and it is a very difficult and emotional task to handle and
> then...... the world keeps on coming at you.
>  Ron, the  fact that you said "I have pretty well lost my interest in
> dealing with PTG" speaks volumes about an organization that has lost its
> way. and this .....
> " Once again, I find the total lack of communication from the Board to be
> astounding."
> *Do they not understand anything about **we the people? The people they
> are supposed to serve.*
> Are they living in a bubble or what?
> Just so you know the majority of Indians have already left the reservation
> so to speak, and many on the list have gone to google groups  and
> unsubscribed to Myptg.org and this list. So I am cross posting this to them
> as well @ pianotech at googlegroups.com.
>
>  My thanks to you for helping to provide an amazing on line experience of
> continuing education of incalculable value.
> The brain trust of the organization and technical expertise and sharing
> lives on elsewhere to those who wish to be
>  involved. The Bible say that without vision..... the people perish.
>  Kind regards and God Bless
>   Dale
>
> *Dale Erwin R.P.T.
> **Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.
> Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos
> www.Erwinspiano.com <http://www.erwinspiano.com/>
> Phone: 209-577-8397
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Berry <berrypiano at gmail.com>
> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:00 pm
> Subject: [pianotech] The fate of Pianotech
>
> to the online PTG people
>
> I have been very tied up the past couple of week with my mother in the
> hospital and moving her
>
> to a nursing home.
>
> I have to say that I was as surprised as the rest of you about the notice
> in the PTG newsletter.
>
> The text in it made it look like I and the ECC were proposing that
> Pianotech be closed and that everyone move over to the Google+ community.
> Once again, I find the total lack of communication from the Board to be
> astounding. My report suggested leaving the email Pianotech running and
> starting an experiment with Google+. Next thing I know it is being
> announced as the new thing and that people should contact me for
> instructions. The G+ community has better options than the Google group and
> it less likely to get spam since the membership has to be approved and can
> be blocked. I called the G+ community Pianotech just to get that name in
> case we liked G+.
>
> If I had a clue that the Board was going to promote this as the
> replacement for Pianotech listserve I would have prepared some instructions
> for using Google+. This change could not have occurred at a worse time for
> me. I also suggested that the ECC committee be eliminated since all its
> past functions are now taken over by staff. I don't have admin rights to
> any of the web sites any more.
>
> I have pretty well lost my interest in dealing with PTG, but still love
> the community created by all our online communities. The listserve will
> probably be closed, even though there are some functions it provides which
> will be hard to duplicate. I am no fan of my.ptg.org and almost never use
> it. When I do, it is through email. It could be OK for some committee work.
> I do think G+ works better than my.ptg.org, and I imagine G+ will grow
> over time at a much faster rate. G+ integrates with Gmail very well, and
> that is the way I follow what is going on there. Also the G+ iPhone app is
> excellent and easy to use. It is unknown how long G+ will archive items,
> and we won't have much control over that. I think it is reasonable to
> transfer the archives over to my.ptg.org to integrate them with that
> community just to save them. I told the Board when they first were looking
> at my.ptg.org that the most important thing was to maintain the Pianotech
> archives. Here we are, years past that, and they are still in question.
>
> I"m still dealing with selling my mom's house and the stuff in it, so I
> don't have much computer time. I have faith in the community that created
> Pianotech and know that it will survive. It would be much better if it
> could all come together in one place rather than four. I think Google
> groups or G+ make sense as the place to have it. The google group is more
> like the current listserve and the G+ group offers some new features
> including Hangouts which are like Skype conference calls. I leave it to the
> groups to decide.
>
> --
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> Indianapolis, IN
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> ron at berrypiano.com
> http://www.berrypiano.com
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