In 1984 I was given a choice of who to affiliate our group of 3 technicians with: Office for the Arts, Music Dept or Media Services (Audio Visual, Modern Language Center, Instructional Media). I eliminated the Music Dept because out of the 200 pianos in the Harvard collection only around 55 are in the Music Bldg and I thought if they were supervising us those 55 pianos would receive an inordinate portion of our time. The Office for the Arts didn't have a particularly strong director or accountant. On the other hand, the director of Media Services although knowing next to nothing about pianos, knew his way in the Harvard Administration and had a well organized and sharp accountant. I also felt that his Dept being piano/music neutral would enable us to fairly distribute our work to all 200 pianos. It has turned out to be for the best. Lew Surdam On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, caut-digest wrote: > > caut-digest Saturday, March 20 1999 Volume 1997 : Number 128 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:01:29 -0500 > From: nhunt@jagat.com (Newton Hunt) > Subject: (no subject) > > And the top of the day to those of us of the celtic persuasion. > Newton (Irish Scot English and Dutch) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:16:07 -0500 > From: Michael Jorgensen <Michael.Jorgensen@cmich.edu> > Subject: Reporting Structure > > Hello List, > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > Thanks in Advance > - -Mike Jorgensen > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:25:00 -0600 (CST) > From: John Minor <jminor@uiuc.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > Piano techs at University of Illinois report to assistant director for > operations of school of music. > > John Minor > U of I > > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Michael Jorgensen wrote: > > ]Hello List, > ] I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > ]technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > ]drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > ]revisions are under consideration at my institution. > ] > ]Thanks in Advance > ]-Mike Jorgensen > ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:44:48 -0500 > From: "Christopher D. Purdy" <purdy@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > >Hello List, > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > >technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > >drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > >revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > > >Thanks in Advance > >-Mike Jorgensen > > mike, > > here at ohio university i report directly to the director of the school o > music. our director is very hands on and likes to know what is going on in > every dept. we don't have a very formal yearly review process. all the > faculty and staff have an annual review when they do budget and saleries. > my position is sort of hard to review so he pretty much consults with the > chair of the keyboard dept. and makes something up. > > the obvious advantage i have is that i go straight to the big cheese with > any questions or problems. i don't have to muck around with protocol. the > disadvantage is that when i goof up there is nowhere to hide. > > chris > > - -Christopher D. Purdy R.P.T. School of Music Ohio University Athens OH > > - -purdy@oak.cats.ohiou.edu (740) 593-1656 fax# (740) 593-1429 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:09:08 -0600 > From: David Porritt <dporritt@swbell.net> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > Mike: > > I report to the Music Chair with due consideration to the Piano > Department Chair (and everyone else for that matter.) It seems to work > fine. > > dave > > - -- > ______________________________ > > David M. Porritt, RPT > Meadows School of the Arts > Southern Methodist University > Dallas, TX 75275 > mailto:dporritt@swbell.net > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:15:12 -0500 (EST) > From: dempsey@MARSHALL.EDU > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > I report to the Chair of the Music Department > > Paul E. Dempsey, RPT > Marshall University > Huntington, WV > > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, John Minor wrote: > > > Piano techs at University of Illinois report to assistant director for > > operations of school of music. > > > > John Minor > > U of I > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Michael Jorgensen wrote: > > > > ]Hello List, > > ] I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > > ]technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > > ]drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > > ]revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > ] > > ]Thanks in Advance > > ]-Mike Jorgensen > > ] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:19:47 -0700 (MST) > From: fred s sturm <fssturm@unm.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > At the University of New Mexico, I report to the department > administrator, and more or less to the department chair as well. The > administrator is responsible for the evaluation/review process for all > department staff. Since that position is more stable than chair (three > in the past 15 years as opposed to five chairs and several interims), > this makes for a reasonable situation. I certainly converse with the > chair of the day, the keyboard and other faculty, and the dean of fine > arts as well. But I am insulated from them in terms of chain of command. > Fred S. Sturm > University of New Mexico > > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Michael Jorgensen wrote: > > > Hello List, > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > > technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > > drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > > revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > > > Thanks in Advance > > -Mike Jorgensen > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:32:34 -0800 (PST) > From: "S. Brady" <sbrady@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Michael Jorgensen wrote: > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > > technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > > drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > > revisions are under consideration at my institution. > Here at the UW, we report to the staff administrator of the School > of Music. When I hired on some 20 years ago, I reported to the Director > (faculty) of the SOM, and in most ways I liked that better. But so much > depends on the individual who occupies the position. The current staff > administrator has been great, and I had one SOM Director who made my life > miserable for five years. > > _________________________________________________ > > Steve Brady, RPT > Head Piano Technician, University of Washington > Editor, Piano Technicians Journal > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:41:59 -0500 > From: Kenneth Sloane <Kenneth_Sloane@qmgate.cc.oberlin.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > Reply to: RE>Reporting Structure > > Mike - I report to the Assistant Dean for Facility Management and Conservatory Computer Services. He is also a part time faculty member (teaches recorder in Oberlin's Historical Performance Program) and totally sympathetic to our needs. I would suggest that you indicate a need for the person you report to be involved with the music world. > > Ken Sloane, Oberlin Conservatory > > - -------------------------------------- > Date: 3/17/99 10.20 AM > To: Kenneth Sloane > From: caut@ptg.org > Hello List, > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > Thanks in Advance > - -Mike Jorgensen > > - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ > Received: by qmgate.cc.oberlin.edu with ADMIN;17 Mar 1999 10:19:58 -0500 > Received: (from majordomo@localhost) > by bridget.rudoff.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA13119 > for caut-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:18:20 -0700 (MST) > Received: from CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu [141.209.1.16]) > by bridget.rudoff.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13114 > for <CAUT@ptg.org>; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:18:08 -0700 (MST) > Received: from d239003.dynamic.cmich.edu [141.209.239.3] by CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (IBM VM SMTP Level 310) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:15:22 EST > X-Warning: CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU: Host d239003.dynamic.cmich.edu claimed to be 141.209.239.3 > Message-ID: <36EFC737.3A23@cmich.edu> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:16:07 -0500 > From: Michael Jorgensen <Michael.Jorgensen@cmich.edu> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: CAUT@ptg.org > Subject: Reporting Structure > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-caut@ptg.org > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: caut@ptg.org > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:04:45 -0600 > From: Conrad Hoffsommer <hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > Mike, > At 10:16 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff technicians, > > - -I report to the Head of the Music Department, who, as luck would have it, > is also the head of the Piano faculty. > > Advantages and disadvantages: > - -Immediate access in both directions. > > > > Conrad Hoffsommer - Music Technician mailto:hoffsoco@luther.edu > Luther College (319)-387-1204 > Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 > > "I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it." - Ray Bradbury > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:38:34 -0700 > From: Vince Mrykalo <Vince@byu.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > - --=====================_12712638==_.ALT > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > I see no reason why any tech, staff or admin. shouldn't report to either the > chair or director, or the dean directly (which ever the case may be). Here at > BYU we have this chain of command where there is a middle man betwixt me and > the director. A pain in the neck. > > At 10:16 AM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > >technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > >drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > >revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > > >Thanks in Advance > >-Mike Jorgensen > > > Vince > <mailto:vince@byu.edu> > Visit the web page for the Pacific Northwest Conference at: > <www.pnwpianoconf.com> > - --=====================_12712638==_.ALT > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > > <html><div>I see no reason why any tech, staff or admin. shouldn't report > to either the chair or director, or the dean directly (which ever the > case may be). Here at BYU we have this chain of command where there > is a middle man betwixt me and the director. A pain in the > neck.</div> > <br> > <div>At 10:16 AM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote:</div> > <div>>Hello List,</div> > <div>> I wish to know who you as technicians report > to as staff</div> > <div>>technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) > and any </div> > <div>>drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting > structure</div> > <div>>revisions are under consideration at my institution.</div> > <div>></div> > <div>>Thanks in Advance </div> > <div>>-Mike Jorgensen</div> > > > <br> > > <b>Vince<br> > </b><i><<a href="mailto:vince@byu.edu" eudora="autourl">mailto:vince@byu.edu</a>><br> > </i>Visit the web page for the Pacific Northwest Conference at: <br> > <<a href="http://www.pnwpianoconf.com/" eudora="autourl">www.pnwpianoconf.com</a>> > </html> > > - --=====================_12712638==_.ALT-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:57:13 -0500 (EST) > From: Ron Torrella <torrella@umich.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > The HPT at U of M reports to the Director of the SOM, but also has an open > line of communication with the Dean of the school. > > The lowly assistant tech reports to his wife and the HPT....in that order. > :-) > > Ron Torrella, RPT > Piano Technician "And like that...he's gone." > University of Michigan - Roger "Verbal" Kint (Kevin Spacey) > School of Music The Usual Suspects > 734/764-6207 (office/shop) > 734/763-5097 (fax) > 734/572-7663 (home) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:39:17 +0000 > From: Richard West <rwest@unlinfo.unl.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > I report to and receive yearly evaluations from the Director of the SOM. > I presume he consults with piano faculty and other faculty when he makes > up his evaluations, but I don't know for sure. I suspect that if he > gets no negative comments and an occassional positive one, that's enough > to give me a good evaluation. I've worked with several directors over > my looong term here and found them to be cooperative and pleasant to > work with. I go to them if I have "dirty work" that needs to be done. > They get paid to take the heat; I don't. I just try to do the best I > can, enjoy the people I work with, don't make too many waves, provide > detailed information regarding all facets of pianos, be open to new > ideas and procedures, and continually push for more money for new > instruments. That strategy has worked for 23 years here. > > Richard West > University of Nebraska > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:55:13 -0600 > From: John Minor <jminor@uiuc.edu> > Subject: Roommate? > > Richard: I'm looking for a suitable roommate for KC. Are you available?? > > John > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:13:31 +0000 > From: Richard West <rwest@unlinfo.unl.edu> > Subject: Re: Roommate? > > Hi, John; > > If I had a suit, I'd be suitable, but I'm just a sport coat kind of > guy. Unfortunately Jeff Stickney called first so I'm committed (no pun > intended). Sorry. Maybe we could get a suite with 3 beds, but I don't > know if the university would finance that. But then, if the cost was > split 3 ways, maybe it would work. Regardless of what happens, I'm > going to have a bed to myself! > > Good luck. See you in KC. > > Richard > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:42:47 -0500 > From: Eric Wolfley <eric.wolfley@uc.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > Michael, > > Here at the Cincinnati Conservatory we report to the Assistant Dean for > Performance Management. This seems to work out well, because all the > performance division-heads answer to her as well. I can work with the > division heads to get something from her or work with her to help me with > any problems I may be having with say, the musical theater people dancing > on top of the performance pianos. She can also add clout to budget requests > I may make to the Dean (or subtract clout in some cases). The added layer > of bureaucracy can help or hinder, but so far I feel it has helped me. > > Eric > > > > At 10:16 AM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > >technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > >drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > >revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > > >Thanks in Advance > >-Mike Jorgensen > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Eric Wolfley, RPT > Head Piano Technician > College Conservatory of Music > University of Cincinnati > http://ucccm56.ccm.uc.edu/pianowolf/index.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:24:34 -0600 > From: Joel Jones <jajones2@facstaff.wisc.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > At Wisconsin there once was (25 years ago) an administrative assistant who > was very helpful and a fantastic promoter for pianos and maintenance. > About 15 years ago we lost the assistant position and our advocate. > Today I am ultimately responsible to the Director who is elected > every 5 years. By the time a new director finds the right people and the > sources of funding they go back to teaching. As a result of this turnover > I answer to every faculty/student service request and realistically run my > own show. > Raises, grievances etc. are channeled thro a personnel committee of > faculty and staff. I submit a long written report each year of my > 'professional activities' which the comittee considers in determining my > salary and continuing service. > As Richrd West put it, my strategy has worked so far. > Joel > > I >Hello List, > > I wish to know who you as technicians report to as staff > >technicians, (Department Chair, Events Director, Faculty, etc.) and any > >drawbacks or advantages you see with each? Staff reporting structure > >revisions are under consideration at my institution. > > > >Thanks in Advance > >-Mike Jorgensen > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:24:01 -0600 (CST) > From: John Minor <jminor@uiuc.edu> > Subject: Mea Culpa! > > Sorry for the personal email sent to the caut list...... > > > John(red faced) Minor > University of Illinois > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, John Minor wrote: > > ]Richard: I'm looking for a suitable roommate for KC. Are you available?? > ] > ]John > ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:16:06 -0800 > From: Thomas Winter <twinter@sfsu.edu> > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > At San Francisco State University, I report to the Supervisor of Creative > Arts Technical Services, which is fine, since he has some understanding and > appreciation of the work that I do. Many years ago I reported to the Chair > of the Music Department. Most of the differences between the two reporting > structures can be attributed to personalities. But I have been able to > divide my time more equitably between all of the departments (Music, > Theater Arts, Dance, Broadcast) since I left the supervision of the Music > Department. > > Tom > > > ************************* > Thomas Winter > Piano Technician > San Francisco State University > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:37:05 -0600 > From: John Minor <jminor@uiuc.edu> > Subject: Apologies > > Mea Culpa to the list for accidently sending email intended for an > individual to the entire list. > > John [red faced] Minor > University of Illinois > > > At 01:55 PM 3/17/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Richard: I'm looking for a suitable roommate for KC. Are you available?? > > > >John > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:38:21 +1000 > From: Geoffrey Pollard <gpollard@greenway.usyd.edu.au> > Subject: Reporting Structure > > <excerpt> > > List, > > I've been subscribing for a while now without replying on any topics. > Thanks for some great information and community in a pretty isolated > profession. > > > In 10 years in the job here at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music I > have reported to variously the Head of the Keyboard Dept., the Manager > of Administration, the Assistant Principal (Head of Studies) and at the > moment, to the Principal (the top job). > > I'll agree with others that the personalities make a huge difference > to the way things work but I have also found: > > - when I dealt with the Head of Keyboard her concerns were almost > exclusively for her department. Getting support for purchases, > maintenance, etc for other departments or for practice rooms was very > difficult. She (obviously) was a musician, so her heart was in the > right place as far as supporting quality in the performance instruments > - - 4 S&S D's. > > - reporting to the Manager of Admin. was better - I still worked > closely with the Keyboard Dept on a daily level but had growing support > for maintenance budget and long term strategies for improving piano > stocks. This seemed a better level to report to. Not a musician > however. > > - seemingly now I'll have the best ride of all - reporting to the > Principal who is also a musician (oboe), that is if I can ever get an > appointment to see her. Way too busy! And perhaps because she is a > woodwind player, the scope and need for piano maintenance is not well > understood. She sometimes seems to think that every piano issue has > been dealt with by the provision of a full time piano tech. > > > In short, no one else is paid to consider all the pianos in the > institution - their condition, maintenance, appropriatness for use, > turnover, disposal - except the piano tech. You will always have help > to focus on the little picture - tune my piano!~ I've broken a string!~ > To alter the big picture you may be better reporting to the management > level. > > > Geoffrey Pollard > > Sydney Conservatorium of Music > > University of Sydney > > Australia > > > > > </excerpt> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:00:25 EST > From: McNeilTom@aol.com > Subject: Re: Reporting Structure > > When I was with State University of New York, Fredonia School of Music, the > chain of command and procedure was nearly identical with what Joel describes > at Wisconsin. An interesting twist in my case was that the Director was > heavily overloaded, and so had me write my own evaluations! These were > reviewed by him of course, in consultation with the chair of the piano > faculty. Then the paper work ascended the chain of command to the College > President. His staff made all the personnel decisions, based of course on the > recommendations of everyone below him. > > In SUNY, some of the technical positions are catagorized in a sort of limbo > somewhere between faculty and the rest of the support staff. (This has to do > with union representation mostly. I was in the faculty union.) As a result > of that circumstance, I was included in the faculty governance. I took that > 'responsibility' seriously - which many faculty don't - and served several > years as Faculty Secretary. In that capacity I met with the President weekly, > attended lots of meetings, and had a great deal of communication with faculty > of 350 campus wide. It was a fascinating experience and provided eye-opening > insights into the politics and operations of the institution. I had embarked > on that course with the blessings of the Director (my boss). We both thought > it might improve the 'presence' of the School of Music in the bureaucracy, > especially since SOM was historically not very involved in governance. > Whether this made any difference to SOM is debatable; I think it did, but > subtly. > > - Tom McNeil - > Formerly: SUNY Fredonia School of Music > > In a message dated 99-03-17 16:19:31 EST, Joel Jones wrote: > > << At Wisconsin there once was (25 years ago) an administrative assistant who > was very helpful and a fantastic promoter for pianos and maintenance. > About 15 years ago we lost the assistant position and our advocate. > Today I am ultimately responsible to the Director who is elected > every 5 years. By the time a new director finds the right people and the > sources of funding they go back to teaching. As a result of this turnover > I answer to every faculty/student service request and realistically run my > own show. > Raises, grievances etc. are channeled thro a personnel committee of > faculty and staff. I submit a long written report each year of my > 'professional activities' which the comittee considers in determining my > salary and continuing service. > As Richrd West put it, my strategy has worked so far. > Joel >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:36:25 -0500 > From: nhunt@jagat.com (Newton Hunt) > Subject: FOR SALE > > FOR SALE-- > > "The Piano Technician" "Piano Technician's Journal" and other > technical library items, books and manuals. > > The journals are from 1947 to the present issues. > > The books and manuals are less extensive but representative of the > genre. > > I may wish to sell other times, like my floor stand drill press, my > Inca 10 1/5" band saw, some hand tools and supplies accumulated over > the last 35 years. > > I will be keeping my small carpentry and piano tools > > If interested contact me privately at: > > Newton J. Hunt > nhunt@jagat.com > 732-545-9048 > > (Got a truck?) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:45:59 -0500 > From: David Forman <dforman@zdial.com> > Subject: advice on action parts > > I need some advice. I was asked yesterday to rebuild the action on an > old Steinway XR (M size player-player removed). The touch is already > heavy (58-60 grams) with the original parts, so I need to use new parts > that will not add any extra touch weight to the action. Should I go with > all original Steinway parts, although I've had weight problems with them > before on a piano, or go with aftermarket parts using the newer light > hammers Pianotek has advertised. I'm certainly no expert at this, so any > advice would be most welcome. > Dave Forman > Westminster Choir College of Rider University > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:07:04 EST > From: Gilreath@aol.com > Subject: Re: advice on action parts > > Dave, > > Do you have one of the Renner sample parts kits? This (or ordering yourself > one of each particular item from each manufacturer) would allow you to "try > out" the fit and leverage of each combination. There are a number of ways to > work with the mass and leverage ratios and this, in conjunction with some > experimentation might be your best route. > > Allan > > Allan L. Gilreath, RPT > Gilreath Piano & Organ Co. > Berry College > Gilreath@aol.com > > In a message dated 3/20/99 7:45:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, dforman@zdial.com > writes: > > << The touch is already > heavy (58-60 grams) with the original parts, so I need to use new parts > that will not add any extra touch weight to the action. Should I go with > all original Steinway parts, although I've had weight problems with them > before on a piano, or go with aftermarket parts using the newer light > hammers Pianotek has advertised. >> > > ------------------------------ > > End of caut-digest V1997 #128 > ***************************** >
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