[Experts] Kranich and Bach grand actions

[Nichols]

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Ed, Wim, et al,
     This action has keyframe issues that would impact the decision to 
replace, necessitating a new frame altogether, I believe. Also, the hammers 
are sometimes very unique, with leather on the tails. I vote go original, 
as the replaced action would probably detract more from the value than it 
would add, once the costs are considered.

Just my 26 centavos,
Guy



At 11:09 AM 11/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>While I understand the question regarding antique value, in a case (pun 
>intended?) like this, it would be a valuation placed by perhaps an auction 
>house, who would not be concerned necessarily whether the instrument 
>played or not, but simply that it was all original.  A buyer would be 
>either someone who collects for the same reason, and is also concerned 
>mostly with originality over playability, or someone seriously wanting to 
>play as well as admire.  For this person, an updated action would be the 
>only realistic choice, and the results of a successful job (a nicely 
>playing instrument with no change in special external appearance) would 
>most likely far outweigh the "original parts" issue as a place from which 
>to give the instrument's ultimate value.  Two different markets and 
>mentalities-- separating them from each other is useful.
>Just my HO.
>Greg
>Greg Granoff   RPT
>Humboldt State University
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:okeyes@uidaho.edu>Otto Keyes
>To: <mailto:caut@ptg.org>College and University Technicians
>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:59 AM
>Subject: Re: [Experts] Kranich and Bach grand actions
>
>Didn't know there was an "antique value" on Chronic & Barf's.......No, 
>re-reading the original message, I see the art case.  However, art case or 
>no, K&B's in pristine condition were never the shining star of their 
>particular corner of the piano universe.  I've always found them 
>matchless.  At least I, being a non-smoker, was matchless when faced with 
>the prospect of tuning one.....almost made me take up smoking a time or 
>two........
>
>Otto
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:dgurnee@humboldt1.com>Daniel Gurnee
>To: <mailto:caut@ptg.org>College and University Technicians
>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [Experts] Kranich and Bach grand actions
>
>The owner may want to know the effect of the replacing of original parts 
>on the antique value.
>
>Dan Gurnee, RPT
>
>
>
>on 11/17/03 7:27 AM, <mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com>Erwinspiano@aol.com at 
><mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com>Erwinspiano@aol.com wrote:
>
>In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:20:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
><mailto:Wimblees@aol.com>Wimblees@aol.com writes:
>Edward
>          Although this piano is an odd ball I've worked on a few that 
> sound?look/like this one. I don't think it impossible to make a new 
> action for this piano & if it's that pretty it might be worth it. I think 
> it would be a fun challenge & not all that diificult. Some new action 
> brakets to lay out new rails on. Drill for the scale. Calculate acton key 
> ratios. This could be done for a price. I'd like to hear others weigh in 
> on this for your sake.
>  Dale Erwin
>  Erwin Piano Restorations
>  Modesto, Ca
>   209-577-8397
>     So now the point, this customer has money and we are willing to 
> rebuild the existing action or.... is there someone out there who could 
> build a new action with conventional whippens, action brackets,etc to 
> replace the old action. I understand this is nearly an impossible task 
> but perhaps there is someone who could do such a thing.
>I look forward to your responces.
>
>                                 Thank You,
>                                              Edward Mastin, RPT
>

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