Verdigris

Isaac OLEG oleg-i@noos.fr
Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:36:16 +0200


Some Vodka made in Belarus republic is produced with wood (but safety
rules certainly differ from here in that place).

Having stopped to abuse with drinking (without the help of any foreign
entity myself) I did not check the stuff, but a friend of mine have
and it really seem to be a very good cause for car damage if not
worse.

I have straight "pure" Methanol in the workshop , expensive stuff and
poisonous indeed, even by skin absorption is said on the bottle.

I was said that the people that have been intoxicated with drinking
can be reactive only with skin contact. When I've meet the old
fashioned French polish lacquer specialists, I did not remind one that
was not alcoholic, probably for that reasons.

Agreed with the difference between wood and grain alcohol, wood
alcohol is considered toxic (highly)

Isaac OLEG


-----Message d'origine-----
De : caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]De la part de
James Ellis
Envoye : jeudi 12 aout 2004 15:12
A : caut@ptg.org
Objet : Re: Verdigris


Tim,  I don't know why Fred referred to "wood grain" alcohol, because
that
is a self contradiction.  Dave is correct.  Wood alcohol will make you
go
blind, if it doesn't kill you first.  That stuff us POISON.  Wood
alcohol
is used to thin shellac.  Piano technicians also use it, mixed with
water,
as a bushing shrinker.  I prefer grain alcohol and distilled water,
for the
simple reason that I know what I'm putting in the bushing, and nothing
is
in there what won't evaporate.  If I go buy shellac thinner, I'm not
sure
what else is in it.  If I use tap water, it's prabably OK.  It's just
that
distilled water is cheap.  I keep it on hand.  I use it for mixing my
photo
chemicals, because I find the shelf life is longer than with tap
water,
which does have some minerals in it.  And I do so little photography,
shelf
life is important.  The chemicals always go bad before I use them up.

Now I too have digressed.  My point was, the Wild Turkey thing might
not be
so funny after all.  I too was being serious.  I do plan to do some
experiments to see what's left after that stuff evaporates.  Fred
might
well have been correct about the Wild Turkey.  However, he was
mistaken
when he said "wood grain alcohol", because that is a self
contradiction.
Wood alcohol is one thing.  Grain alcohol is something else.  When
used
with water as a shrinking agent for flange buchings, I don't think it
matters, because the alcohol is only something to dilute the water and
make
it evaporate faster.  It's the water that does the shrinking.  The
alcohol
will have some cleaning and degreasing effect, but not much,
especially if
it has water in it.

Rubbing alcohol is synthetic, and not fit to drink.  It has something
added
to it to make you throw up if you do drink it.  You don't want to use
that
for your flange treatment because it will leave some sort of goo in
there.

Jim Ellis

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