[CAUT] New Ivory ethical questions

Tim Coates tcoates1@sio.midco.net
Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:35:50 -0600


RicB,

Amen!   Thank you for your comments.

Tim Coates
University of South Dakota
University of Sioux Falls

On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:35 AM, Richard Brekne wrote:

> Hi Wim
>
> Not wanting to start any political discussion, I would like to point 
> out there is an awfull lot of this kind of stuff going on in the world 
> right now that we in the western rich countries simply do not want to 
> know about, refuse to do anything about, ignore, look past....etc etc 
> ad absurdum all so that we can live our comfy little lives as we do.  
> You really want an eye opener then start looking very closely at who 
> makes the cloths you wear, or the tools you buy, or the toys you give 
> your kids... and under what circumstances they are produced.  All too 
> often... all too often the truth behind is anything but pretty.  No 
> small wonder there are soscialists in this world... not that they have 
> the answer either mind you. No small wonder there are so many other 
> anti west movements out there either.
>
> I read in the paper the other day how so many Americans this year seem 
> ready to turn their backs on the usual Christmas orgie of buying all 
> maner of expensive gifts that end up sitting on someones shelf and 
> instead opting for family gatherings without presents, for 
> togetherness with those they are closest too. If so.... I wish it 
> would wash over Europe as well... along with an increased awareness of 
> what the price of our affluency really is.
>
> Piano related ???.... well... perhaps not as much as it should be.. 
> but yes.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
> Wimblees@aol.com wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 12/11/2004 10:25:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
>> Erwinspiano@aol.com writes:
>>
>>     Speaking of ethical questions If you think the price was high for
>>     the Poor Elephants. I've heard the death toll to the indigenous
>>     tribes who were kidnapped to haul it out to the coast was about 6
>>     people per LB or several people per keyboard or some such. Very
>>     gruesome. It was a barbarous business. There is a book out that
>>     document this & the name of it escapes me right now but I was
>>     shocked. Makes one  think!
>>
>> There was an article in the Journal about this back in the late 80's, 
>> and someone gave a class on ivories at the convention in 1987 in St. 
>> Louis.
>>  You're right, it was a gruesome event. One curious thing I remember. 
>> The action maker Pratt Reed started out as in the ivory business back 
>> in the 1700 and 1800's, making combs, and such. They got their ivory 
>> after the slaves were dropped off in the south. But what was ironic 
>> is that either Mr. Pratt or Mr. Reed was an abolitionist.   Wim
>> Willem Blees, RPT
>> Piano Technician
>> School of Music
>> University of Alabama
>
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