:) Horace (what a cool name!) Anyways- this is a 1967 Steinway D- which TO MY KNOWLEDGE was overhauled by a Steinway technician in 1989 (!!) with new parts and restrung. Not sure if it got a new pinblock- just bigger pins-I'm 99% sure. (That's another can of worms and each worm has it's own extended family over for a rowdy card party.) I have thought in the past that the action had some huge problems because of the knuckle placement- but up until now it's never really had a re-regulation until now. (A bit here and there- but never a full on, like it's needed.- At least since I've been here.) So right now before I go ahead and start moving things I want to cross my "T"'s and dot my "I"'s. ;) Michelle --On Friday, February 4, 2005 1:13 PM -0800 Horace Greeley <hgreeley@stanford.edu> wrote: > > > Michelle, > > OK - now - you mention that other work has been done. Any idea as to > when? Range of work that was performed? Also helpful would be to know > when the instrument was built (goes to the style of forefinishing that > was being done at the time). > > Nothing happens in a vacuum. Before making changes, figure out where > things might have been originally, then work from there to where things > are before deciding what changes to make. Remember the rule of 7: at > each step at which a fault (in this case, potentially a fault in either > manufacture or remanufacture) is discovered, it takes seven times as much > effort and energy to make right as it does when the fault is discovered > at the immediately preceding step. > > Best. > > Horace > > > At 01:09 PM 2/4/2005, you wrote: >> The D beast. >> >> D as in: >> >> darn >> dingy >> delapidated >> decapitated >> devil >> dopey >> doohickey >> >> Ooop!! >> >> Sorry about that!! >> >> :B >> (Having fun- that's what I'm doing!) >> Her >> >> >> --On Friday, February 4, 2005 12:46 PM -0800 Horace Greeley >> <hgreeley@stanford.edu> wrote: >> >>> >>> Michelle, >>> >>> What brand of beast are you discussing? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Horace >>> >>> At 12:33 PM 2/4/2005, you wrote: >>>> Thanx David. >>>> >>>> I'll look into that some more. >>>> >>>> *Everything* was changed on this at some point- new parts too- >>>> So I was wondering if the key end relation was also a consideration in >>>> alignment- or another good starting place for bass cleat adjustments. >>>> >>>> I feel the wippens and shanks are all shifted to the left- and not many >>>> wippens are completely under the knuckles. >>>> >>>> :o >>>> M >>>> >>>> >>>> --On Friday, February 4, 2005 12:08 PM -0800 David Ilvedson >>>> <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would think the first thing to check is how your wippens align under >>>>> the hammer/shanks & flanges in relation to the strings, i.e. are the >>>>> shanks going off at an angle to align with strings and thus the >>>>> wippens not parallel under the knuckle.. I'd be more interested in >>>>> changing the bass cleat/felt relative to that before concerning >>>>> myself with how the key ends align with the underlevers...imho >>>>> >>>>> To be clear (possibly)....for instance, if moving the entire keyframe >>>>> towards the bass allowed you to re-align the hammers and get a better >>>>> centering of the wippens under the knuckle... >>>>> >>>>> David I. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >>>>> From: michelle stranges <stranges@Oswego.EDU> >>>>> To: caut list <caut@ptg.org> >>>>> Received: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:58:36 -0500 >>>>> Subject: [CAUT] Key frame placement >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hey boils and goils- >>>>> >>>>>> Can I get some feedback on the bast placement of the keys/key ends >>>>>> and frame under the underlevers in the REST position? (Unshifted..) >>>>> >>>>>> I'm deep into getting our concert grand worthy- and want to get the >>>>>> best placement before I go and move wippens and hammers and bass >>>>>> cleat felt which are questionable and do a complete regulation.. >>>>> >>>>>> For example- should the underlevers be to the right-ish of the key >>>>>> ends so that when it shifts it's centered? >>>>>> OR should the underlevers be CENTERED on the key ends so that when it >>>>>> shifts they'll be on the left-ish.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> (Not leftist!!) >>>>> >>>>>> :) >>>>>> Stranges in the niiiighhhhtttt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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