[CAUT]  Liszt, historical pianos et. al.disccusion and links(long)

Bdshull@aol.com Bdshull@aol.com
Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:27:50 -0500


Jeff,

It's likely to be mechanically identical to the Metropolitan Museum's Liszt Erard.

Bill

In a message dated 2/17/2005 5:09:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jeff Tanner <jtanner@mozart.sc.edu> writes:

>One of our piano faculty members has a straight strung from the 1860's, 
>but that's probably not what you're referring to?
>Jeff
>
>On Thursday, February 17, 2005, at 05:07 PM, Fred Sturm wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>     I believe the Metropolitan Museum of Art recently acquired an Erard
>> which was either owned, or at least extensively played, by Liszt. It's 
>> not
>> out on display at present, but the musical instrument curator was 
>> talking
>> about it last fall. Offered to take us (a Steinway class) down to see 
>> it,
>> but we ran out of time - had another place to be. Sounded like it was
>> supposed to be in playing condition.
>> Regards,
>> Fred Sturm
>> University of New Mexico
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/17/05 11:39 AM, "Bdshull@aol.com" <Bdshull@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Richard,
>>>
>>> Thanks for you incredibly entertaining post!
>>>
>>> While Liszt did endorse, own and play a multitude of pianos 
>>> throughout his
>>> life, the piano of choice during his "recitalizing" and composing 
>>> years was
>>> the Erard.   His "sound world" as a pianist and composer was informed 
>>> by all
>>> the brands he came into contact with (and there was a great variety 
>>> in the
>>> first half of the nineteenth century). But since the Erard was his 
>>> preferred
>>> instrument through the early 50's, it was his primary point of 
>>> reference.
>>>
>>> This is why I believe in the importance of replicating the Erard, 
>>> preferably
>>> an instrument similar to the one donated by our colleague David Moore 
>>> (who
>>> died in a plane crash a couple years ago) to the National Music 
>>> Museum:
>>>
>>> NMM 5984. Grand piano by Erard, Paris, 1849. AAA-a4 (7 octaves). Two 
>>> pedals:
>>> una corda, dampers. Gift of David Moore, Jacksonville, Texas, 1996.
>>>
>>> David made sure to tell me that he had restrung and rehammered this 
>>> piano, and
>>> that it was no longer original.   But this 1849 Erard was the largest 
>>> compass
>>> Erard built to date, one of the first 85 note pianos built.  It can 
>>> accomodate
>>> all of Liszt's literature, while faithfully representing his earlier 
>>> material
>>> too, since the design remained similar for the 25 years leading up to 
>>> 1849.
>>>
>>> I don't know what the treble will sound like on a replica Erard, but 
>>> I would
>>> love to know.  Your very entertaining description of the Erard in the
>>> recording isn't the reaction of everyone (my musicology professor 
>>> loved the
>>> sound of the  Erard restored by David Winston in the recent Emmanuel 
>>> Ax Chopin
>>> recordings - but he has a more open mind than most...  :)
>>>
>>> I still hold out hope we will get more from the treble when the belly 
>>> is new
>>> and the string is deflected (I haven't found any documentation for 
>>> crown or
>>> bearing for Erard, but I haven't looked too hard, and would love to 
>>> find it),
>>> but it seems obvious Erard would have deflected the string some, and 
>>> a new
>>> belly must sound different than an old one in the treble, no?
>>>
>>> Loved your post...!
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
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