---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Jeff, I believe I said "proper warming before and after spraying". I didn't=20= mean to turn off the heat right after you are done spraying. Most=20 people have insulated garages if you are going to work in it during the=20= winter. If you are going to refinish in the winter which requires=20 higher heating costs, the cost needs to be built into your bid. That's=20= just the way it is around here. It can be a shock to the unknowing how=20= much it costs to heat a house in the upper plains. I would suggest=20 buying a programable thermostat to regulate your house temp to save on=20= your heating bills. But you know, I really like winter. If you need anything give me a call. I'm in the PTG directory and the=20= Sioux Falls phone book. Tim Coates University of South Dakota University of Sioux Falls On Sep 27, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Jeff Olson wrote: > Thanks, guys (and gal!) for the input.=A0 On second thought, I think I=20= > may move to San Diego... :-)=A0 (Especially after reading your = account,=20 > Otto, which was frightening on many different levels :) > =A0 > So the winters have been mild, Tim?=A0 My aunt, who lives in = Brookings,=20 > says the same thing.=A0 I'll be residing in a small town rather north = of=20 > that, so I hope that holds (she's lately referred to a rumor about an=20= > impending "harsh winter" that sounds almost like an anticipated ice=20 > age or something:). > =A0 > This business of heating up the garage from very cold and then=20 > spraying, and then, presumably, letting the garage cool down some time=20= > thereafter is somewhat worrisome to me.=A0 I don't doubt it could = work,=20 > but it seems that if you didn't keep the place warm enough for some=20 > period -- a day or two? -- you'd be putting your finish at risk.=A0=20 > Also, unless the garage or shop is really insulated, even to keep at=20= > it near-70% for a day or two would be costly, wouldn't it (that would=20= > include keeping it warm all night)?=A0 I had thought, as John Ross=20 > suggested, to damp-chase any piano I had in my garage; the suggestion=20= > about moisture rising from the cement floor struck me as a good=20 > caution (incidentally, John, any relationship to the famous Cherokee=20= > Indian John Ross?) > =A0 > Damn, I may just=A0take up ice fishing or something in the dead of=20 > winter instead of piano work... > =A0 > :-(=A0 JeffO >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tim Coates >> To: College and University Technicians >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Query about "Cold Storage" >> >> Jeff, >> >> Having lived in SD for 41 years and been a piano technician here for=20= >> 34 years I need to clarify a few things. We don't get sub zero temps=20= >> very often any more. The wind chill can get it down there, but the=20 >> past 10 years have been pretty mild. I really like a good blizzard=20 >> because it is a gift: absolutely helpless to do nothing but stay home=20= >> or work in the shop. It is a rather pressure releasing situation.=20 >> People who try to beat a storm are considered foolish. The winters=20 >> have been almost too mild because we need the moisture from the snow=20= >> to help the agricultural industry. Agriculture is still our number=20 >> one industry. Credit cards and health services are catching up,=20 >> though. >> >> There is more humidity in cold air than if you take the same air and=20= >> heat it. Use a good humidity gauge and do a test to see the=20 >> differential. I don't recommend to customers to store a piano in an=20= >> unheated area for more than a year. The important aspect is not to=20 >> warm the piano too fast. Condensation will develop. My home piano=20 >> spent 5 years in an unheated garage before I did anything with it. It=20= >> is solid as a rock even though it isn't a top of the line constructed=20= >> piano. I know technicians around here who have refinished in their=20 >> garages during the winter, they just did the proper warming before=20 >> and after spraying. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Tim Coates >> University of South Dakota >> University of Sioux Falls >> >> On Sep 26, 2005, at 9:18 PM, Jeff Olson wrote: >> >>> Many of you probably hail from "hardier" climates than I, and since=20= >>> I'm about to move to a hardier (euphemism) climate -- South Dakota=20= >>> -- I've been wondering about the effects of=A0 sub-zero temperatures=20= >>> on pianos.=A0 Do any of you who reside in cold climes store your=20 >>> pianos in a shop/garage over the winter.=A0 If so, any negative=20 >>> consequences? >>> =A0 >>> I'm fairly sure that wood finishing would be out of the question=20 >>> during those cold months without adequate heating.... >>> =A0 >>> JeffO= ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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