[CAUT] Re: [PTG-L] Clarity needed?

Barbara Richmond piano57@insightbb.com
Wed, 8 Feb 2006 10:29:32 -0600


Why is this on CAUT?

Barbara Richmond

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Roberts" <kpiano@goldrush.com>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Re: [PTG-L] Clarity needed?


>I agree with you wholeheartedly Richard. I was told by an esteemed RPT that
> no one knows what a RPT is. I find that true. Most of my clients think we
> are all piano TUNERS. Marketing what we have and adding only one or two 
> more
> classifications that are also marketable would be the way to go, in my
> opinion.
> Why would I become a RPT if I have to market it myself? I can make up all
> kinds of fancy sounding titles and no one is going to know the difference
> except the guy across town who has the real one. If I have better 
> marketing
> I will run him out of business if there isn't enough for two.
>
> Keith Roberts
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard West" <rwest1@unl.edu>
> To: "CAUT >> College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:15 AM
> Subject: [CAUT] Re: [PTG-L] Clarity needed?
>
>
>> I like your email, Jim.  It helped clarify my thinking, anyway.  Your
>> three items are no longer at the top of my priority list for change.
>> That's not to say that there isn't room for improvement.  I have just
>> come to accept certain things.
>>
>> 1. Testing - We have a workable test and a great crew administering it.
>> Change will take place.  The committee will hear suggestions and work
>> with them to either accept and use them, or reject them as unworkable. I
>> believe the testing system we have in place is working, at least well
>> enough for me to be willing to let it be for awhile.
>>
>> 2.  Associates - We have a category system that has remained unchanged
>> for over 20 years.  As far as I'm concerned it's a topic of discussion
>> because of a few disgruntled members who can't leave it alone.  I can
>> understand the sentiment to some extent, but I see this as going against
>> the inclusive spirit of PTG and the value that Associates bring to this
>> organization.  There has always existed a misdirected punitive
>> inclination in PTG.  Fortunately that has never been a dominant
>> attitude.  We would be better focused if we aimed at marketing the
>> RPT rather than diminishing the Associate classification.  I won't
>> say any more about that because the discussion of Associates winds up in
>> pointless debate over category options, most of which have been rejected
>> in Council. This discussion is akin to debating how many angels will fit
>> on the head of a pin.
>>
>> 3. Categories - I would like to see more internal categories, but I also
>> think that our efforts should be more directed to marketing the RPT. And
>> until that is done, multiple categories are of less importance. I agree
>> with Israel that a plethora of categories will only confuse the public.
>>   Also defining the qualifications for other categories will take a lot
>> of work.  The rebuilder category, for example, has already been
>> investigated and there have been a whole lot of problems defined.
>>
>> Therefore, my priority list starts with marketing RPT and spending
>> some money to do that.  Second on the list would be to expand our
>> educational publications, top to bottom.  Revise PACE, develop a
>> piano service textbook, that is better than Reblitz, continue to
>> refine the PACE checklist,  etc., etc.  I think PTG is in a good
>> position to address both of these items.
>>
>> We had an informal moritorium on categories a few years ago.  I would
>> expand that moritorium to testing and Associate bashing.
>>
>> Richard West
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Jim Busby wrote:
>>
>> > List,
>> >
>> > You may choose to call the issues "problems" or, in my opinion, "ideas
>> > to strengthen PTG", but here is a "nutshell" of the issues as I see
>> > them; (If I missed something please let me know.)
>> >
>> > 1. Testing (CTEs, fees, reimbursements, etc.)
>> > 2. Associates (Name use, advertising, progress in guild, etc.)
>> > 3. Categories (Two, or more?)
>> >
>> > I don't want to sound too simplistic because I know each of these is a
>> > whole can-o-worms, but can't we come together on the fact that each of
>> > these issues should be addressed, separately?
>> >
>> > It seems that there are two definite camps; those who want change and
>> > those who either don't, or are at least reluctant to effect change.
>> > This
>> > keeps an amount of "checks and balances" in place. It also seems
>> > that we
>> > get bogged down in these discussions because we throw everything in
>> > the
>> > pot together and this leads to endless 90 degree turns which lead us
>> > nowhere.
>> >
>> > I, for one, could live with PTG as it is, but would REALLY like to
>> > seem
>> > more categories. Something to help the organizations to stretch out a
>> > bit.
>> >
>> > Jim Busby BYU
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