> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment List, So now that I've seen a few variations of extra moving equipment that is either large and cumbersome and/or expensive, I'll offer my suggestion... Simplify and use the lyre. (Blasphemy!!!!!!) Not long ago I cursed movers who used the lyre. I have repaired too many over the years to accept the movers' claims of no damage. I soon came to the conclusion, however, that I would rather repair a lyre than my back. After seeing the Grand Lyre Stabilizer in the QRS catalogue, I decided to order one for ASU and try it out. 3 years later I still have not broken a lyre, or had to repair a glue joint. Now I only curse movers who use an unstabilized lyre. If you must do the moving yourself, the less equipment to lug around, the better. Our moving equipment consists of a straight wheeled dolly, the stabilizer bar, an old tire tube (stem removed) to hold the lid and fallboard in place, and whatever tool we need to remove the leg(s). Tipping directly on to a dolly (as opposed to a skid board) reduces the angle on the rear leg and lyre and reduces the required lifting at the bottom where you're most likely to injure your back. I have done moves myself, but almost always do it with help. A grand on it's side is a pretty risky move with just one person. If the university is concerned about risk, I would ask them which is more risky, having the correct number of people moving a 600-900 lb. piano, or waiting for the day when the piano falls on you or someone else as you attempt to do a two man job with one person. If your administrator doesn't seem to care, a quick call to your campus OSHA representative will get things moving (pun intended). Happy moving, Rick on 2/27/06 9:30 AM, Andrew Anderson at andrew@andersonmusic.com wrote: David I made one much like Brad's. Only wider and with jacking tops on both of them. I clamp the skid to the piano set the tilter with/without blocks to set on the floor or on dollys. Mine is way too heavy though. I'm looking to have one engineered out of steel. Andrew Anderson At 09:23 AM 2/27/2006, you wrote: Brad, Now if you had another one that was configured to turn it over onto a dolly (for when you're actually moving the piano not storing it in the corner)...that would be even nicer...no one likes to deadlift the end of the board to install a dolly...;-] David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California Original message From: "Brad Smith, RPT" To: "College and University Technicians" Received: 2/27/2006 1:43:24 AM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse Hi All, Here is a link to my solution for this: http://www.smithpiano.com/shop/ On 2/26/06, Rob & Helen Goodale <rrg@unlv.nevada.edu> wrote: Hello, Thanks for all the great responses. Is there somewhere on-line that I can see a picture of the "piano horse"? Rob Goodale, RPT Las Vegas, NV _____________ Rick Florence Senior Piano Technician Arizona State University, School of Music ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/eb/05/da/15/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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