[CAUT] Piano Horse

Keith Kopp keith_kopp@byu.edu
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:10:03 -0700


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Does anyone where we can see a picture of the QRS tool?

Keith and Jim

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From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of =
Rick Florence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:45 PM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse

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Yeah, but I remember repairing a few lyres after their moves.  Movers =
are rarely around to see the consequences of moving on an unstabilized =
lyre.  The QRS tool makes a huge difference.

Rick


on 2/27/06 12:05 PM, Jim Busby at jim_busby@byu.edu wrote:

I=B9ll add my =B3amen=B2 to that blasphemy, Rick.=20



Barrus movers are Utah=B9s #1 movers and they told me they ALWAYS move =
with the lyre and have never had a mishap in over 35 years! We have a =
piano horse and rarely use it because of the space needed to do it. =
Besides, it always feels like it=B9s ready to slip out=D0=20



Jim Busby=20



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From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of =
Rick Florence
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:39 AM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse=20


List,

So now that I've seen a few variations of extra moving equipment that is =
either large and cumbersome and/or expensive,  I'll offer my =
suggestion...

Simplify and use the lyre. (Blasphemy!!!!!!)

Not long ago I cursed movers who used the lyre.  I have repaired too =
many over the years to accept the movers'  claims of no damage.  I soon =
came to the conclusion, however, that I would rather repair a lyre than =
my back.  After seeing the Grand Lyre Stabilizer in the QRS catalogue, I =
decided to order one for ASU and try it out.  3 years later I still have =
not broken a lyre, or had to repair a glue joint.  Now I only curse =
movers who use an unstabilized lyre.

If you must do the moving yourself, the less equipment to lug around, =
the better.  Our moving equipment consists of a straight wheeled dolly, =
the stabilizer bar, an old tire tube (stem removed) to hold the lid and =
fallboard in place, and whatever tool we need to remove the leg(s).   =
Tipping directly on to a dolly (as opposed to a skid board) reduces the =
angle on the rear leg and lyre and reduces the required lifting at the =
bottom where you're most likely to injure your back. =20

I have done moves myself, but almost always do it with help.  A grand on =
it's side is a pretty risky move with just one person.  If the =
university is concerned about risk, I would ask them which is more =
risky, having the correct number of people moving a 600-900 lb. piano, =
or waiting for the day when the piano falls on you or someone else as =
you attempt to do a two man job with one person.  If your administrator =
doesn't seem to care, a quick call to your campus OSHA representative =
will get things moving (pun intended).

Happy moving,

Rick



on 2/27/06 9:30 AM, Andrew Anderson at andrew@andersonmusic.com wrote:=20

David I made one much like Brad's.  Only wider and with jacking tops on =
both of them.  I clamp the skid to the piano set the tilter with/without =
blocks to set on the floor or on dollys.

Mine is way too heavy though.  I'm looking to have one engineered out of =
steel.

Andrew Anderson


At 09:23 AM 2/27/2006, you wrote:=20

Brad,

Now if you had another one that was configured to turn it over onto a =
dolly (for when you're actually moving the piano not storing it in the =
corner)...that would be even nicer...no one likes to deadlift the end of =
the board to install a dolly...;-]

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, California



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Original message
From: "Brad Smith, RPT"=20
To: "College and University Technicians"=20
Received: 2/27/2006 1:43:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse

Hi All,=20
Here is a link to my solution for this:=20
http://www.smithpiano.com/shop/


On 2/26/06, Rob & Helen Goodale <rrg@unlv.nevada.edu> wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for all the great responses.  Is there somewhere on-line that I =
can see a picture of the "piano horse"?

Rob Goodale, RPT
Las Vegas, NV





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Rick Florence
Senior Piano Technician
Arizona State University, School of Music=20



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Rick Florence
Senior Piano Technician
Arizona State University, School of Music


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