This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Does anyone where we can see a picture of the QRS tool? Keith and Jim =20 ________________________________ From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of = Rick Florence Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:45 PM To: College and University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse =20 Yeah, but I remember repairing a few lyres after their moves. Movers = are rarely around to see the consequences of moving on an unstabilized = lyre. The QRS tool makes a huge difference. Rick on 2/27/06 12:05 PM, Jim Busby at jim_busby@byu.edu wrote: I=B9ll add my =B3amen=B2 to that blasphemy, Rick.=20 Barrus movers are Utah=B9s #1 movers and they told me they ALWAYS move = with the lyre and have never had a mishap in over 35 years! We have a = piano horse and rarely use it because of the space needed to do it. = Besides, it always feels like it=B9s ready to slip out=D0=20 Jim Busby=20 ________________________________ From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of = Rick Florence Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:39 AM To: College and University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse=20 List, So now that I've seen a few variations of extra moving equipment that is = either large and cumbersome and/or expensive, I'll offer my = suggestion... Simplify and use the lyre. (Blasphemy!!!!!!) Not long ago I cursed movers who used the lyre. I have repaired too = many over the years to accept the movers' claims of no damage. I soon = came to the conclusion, however, that I would rather repair a lyre than = my back. After seeing the Grand Lyre Stabilizer in the QRS catalogue, I = decided to order one for ASU and try it out. 3 years later I still have = not broken a lyre, or had to repair a glue joint. Now I only curse = movers who use an unstabilized lyre. If you must do the moving yourself, the less equipment to lug around, = the better. Our moving equipment consists of a straight wheeled dolly, = the stabilizer bar, an old tire tube (stem removed) to hold the lid and = fallboard in place, and whatever tool we need to remove the leg(s). = Tipping directly on to a dolly (as opposed to a skid board) reduces the = angle on the rear leg and lyre and reduces the required lifting at the = bottom where you're most likely to injure your back. =20 I have done moves myself, but almost always do it with help. A grand on = it's side is a pretty risky move with just one person. If the = university is concerned about risk, I would ask them which is more = risky, having the correct number of people moving a 600-900 lb. piano, = or waiting for the day when the piano falls on you or someone else as = you attempt to do a two man job with one person. If your administrator = doesn't seem to care, a quick call to your campus OSHA representative = will get things moving (pun intended). Happy moving, Rick on 2/27/06 9:30 AM, Andrew Anderson at andrew@andersonmusic.com wrote:=20 David I made one much like Brad's. Only wider and with jacking tops on = both of them. I clamp the skid to the piano set the tilter with/without = blocks to set on the floor or on dollys. Mine is way too heavy though. I'm looking to have one engineered out of = steel. Andrew Anderson At 09:23 AM 2/27/2006, you wrote:=20 Brad, Now if you had another one that was configured to turn it over onto a = dolly (for when you're actually moving the piano not storing it in the = corner)...that would be even nicer...no one likes to deadlift the end of = the board to install a dolly...;-] David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California ________________________________ Original message From: "Brad Smith, RPT"=20 To: "College and University Technicians"=20 Received: 2/27/2006 1:43:24 AM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse Hi All,=20 Here is a link to my solution for this:=20 http://www.smithpiano.com/shop/ On 2/26/06, Rob & Helen Goodale <rrg@unlv.nevada.edu> wrote: Hello, Thanks for all the great responses. Is there somewhere on-line that I = can see a picture of the "piano horse"? Rob Goodale, RPT Las Vegas, NV _____________ Rick Florence Senior Piano Technician Arizona State University, School of Music=20 _____________ Rick Florence Senior Piano Technician Arizona State University, School of Music ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/f2/32/ac/bf/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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